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Oksana <oksanabartanova@yahoo.com>
09. November 2012 um 23:23
 
Hallo,

zunächst einmal ich bin neu hier. Seit einiger Zeit schreibe ich mit einer Frau aus Russland (Novosibirsk). Nun hat sie mir mitgeteilt, dass ihr endlich das Visum (Studentenvisa) gewährt wurde, sie jedoch für die Flugkosten 976,-  Dollar (Hin- und Rückflug) zu bezahlen hat und ihr 376 Dollar dafür fehlen. Mich würde interessieren, ob es sich um einen Scammer handelt oder ob sie möglicherweise doch echt ist. Den Text ihres letzten Mails habe ich reinkopiert. Reisepaß sowie Visa habe ich als Beilage angehängt. 

Besten Dank   Zunge
Robert-o

My dear Robert!!!
Yes, I understand that asked you for help though told you that
had all the money for the trip. But please, understand my problem.
I have has sold a fur coat. But this money is not enough for the
ticket. I don’t know where to take the money. I hope only for you.
Nobody can help me here. I don’t know anybody here in Moscow.
I didn’t know I had to buy a two way ticket. $976 is a cost for
the ticket there and the return ticket.  Your government asks to
have a return ticket for the case my visa is inspired or I am not
able to enter the University. They do it because they are afraid
of the immigrants. When I checked the cost of the ticket they told
me the cost only of the one ticket. Do you understand now why
I don’t have enough money for the ticket?
I am still in Moscow. And I have spent lots of money already to
stay here. Everything is very expensive here and my money is
limited. Please, understand my worries and help me.
I have already paid part of the money for ticket not to be sold
to another person. I have left 300 dollars that is why I ask you
to send me money. I ask you to send me only $376. 976 dollars is
a very reasonable price. And if I don’t pay the whole sum of the
money for the ticket then I will loose all the money that I paid
for my ticket to be reserved.
The other problem is that my visa is given to me only for 2 months
except of 3 months. I don’t know why they did it. But that was
the decision of your Embassy. And they even didn’t explain me the
reason. And I can’t wait. That is why I should come as soon as
possible and enter the University. If I have my visa for longer
time then I could stay here for more time and try to save money.
But I have no time.
I ask you to help me but don’t ask you for a present! I will come,
enter the University and give you the money back. I will work and
will be able to give you it back. I don’t want you to think that
I want to use you just to move to your country.
I hope that you will understand me and will send me the money.
There is only thing left before we meet. There is only little step
left. So please, think and send me the money. It is only 376
dollars. I don’t think it is much for the opportunity to be happy.
I think we will be able to be happy with you. But you should do
this so we could meet with you. ..
I tried to prove you that I am real several times already.
I have sent you a list of paper with my your and my names.
But why don’t you want to believe me? I have sent you also the
copy of my passport. Why don’t you still believe me? 
I am going to try and prove again that I am real. 
I am going to attach you the copy of my visa. And I want you to
understand that I have only serious intentions and I am really
going to come to you. I don’t play any games. I am going to
get your money in Moscow with my passport ( I have sent it
already in my previous letters ) and with my visa. If I am
not real I would not be able to get the money!
And I really want to come to you.
Please, believe me and send me the money. .
I hope that you want to see me and will send me the money.  
I already wrote to you that you could send the money to any office 
of Western Union or MoneyGram in Moscow. Please, send the 
money to my full name. I will be able to get the money without 
any problems.
I just wanted to let you know that you are a very close person
to me. 
You know I often think of us and think how it is to be close,
hold your hand, kiss your face… Sometimes I miss you so much
that even feel a body ache. But hope that very soon the waiting
will be over and I will be with you at last.
In the evenings I sit down and try to imagine our life. There
are so many things that I want to do together. I want to take
care of you and to have a true family. 
It is such a happiness to love and to be loved. And you can’t
imagine how happy I am to know that you love me and I love you. 
When I feel sad, I immediately think of how great it will be to
spend time with you. To go shopping together and then to cook
in the evening, to watch movies, to go dancing together, to read
together, to go out all together. 
Please, write me your thoughts on this, how you imagine us together. 
Take care. 
I need you and I truly hope that you feel the same.
I made a copy of visa by scanner.
But I can't send my pictures now as I am in Moscow now.
I have no here a camera.
I don't think it is a problem as soon I will come to you and you
will be able to see me in real life but not at the pictures.
Oksana.

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Re: Oksana <oksanabartanova@yahoo.com>
Antwort #1 - 09. November 2012 um 23:28
 
Hier ein weitereres Mail von ihr. Foto von ihr habe ich auch beigefügt.

LG Robert-o
  

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Re: Oksana <oksanabartanova@yahoo.com>
Antwort #2 - 09. November 2012 um 23:44
 
@ Robert-o

Herzlich Wilkommen im Forum, Wir brauchen auch die Quelltext zu den Mails.
Bitte lese die Boardregeln, dort ist auch beschrieben wie du an den Quelltext kommst
  
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Re: Oksana <oksanabartanova@yahoo.com>
Antwort #3 - 10. November 2012 um 00:12
 
Vielen Dank, hab den Quelltext gefunden und nun eingefügt. LG Robert-o

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Re: Oksana <oksanabartanova@yahoo.com>
Antwort #4 - 10. November 2012 um 00:27
 
@ Robert-o
Es ist Scam, der Pass ist eine Fälschung und wurde bereits mit anderem Namen verwendet bei gleicher Passnummer und gleichem Foto. Auch das Visum ist eine Fälschung.

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Smiley über Huntsville in den USA

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Re: Oksana <oksanabartanova@yahoo.com>
Antwort #5 - 10. November 2012 um 01:39
 
LeChuck schrieb on 10. November 2012 um 00:27:

Es ist Scam, der Pass ist eine Fälschung und wurde bereits mit anderem Namen verwendet bei gleicher Passnummer und gleichen Foto.

Natalya Murasheva
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Wir haben auch einen Pass mit gleichem Foto von einer  Mariya Shumaher.

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Re: Oksana <oksanabartanova@yahoo.com>
Antwort #6 - 10. November 2012 um 11:05
 
Zum gefälschten Pass 22 813237 von Oksana Bartanova:

Bei der Passnummer fehlt eine Ziffer! Scheint Markenzeichen des Fälschers zu sein.

Geburtsort hat in kyrillischen Buchstaben dort zu stehen. Nationalität fehlt!

MID Russia ist keine ausstellende russische Behörde (ansonsten müsste es dort in kyrillischer Schrift stehen Zwinkernd). 

Maschinenlesbarer Teil fällt unter groben Unfugs und gehört bestraft! Um die Fehler dort zu erkennen, braucht man nur seinen eigenen Pass anzuschauen!

Zum gefälschten Visum:

Wo ist der Hintergrund zum Visum. Visa werden in die Pässe eingeklebt und da sollte der Passhintergrund noch sichtbar sein!

Das Grundmuster ist das des alten Schengenvisums. Die heutigen haben linksseitig ein Passfoto!

Auch hier ist der maschinenlesbare Teil blanker Unsinn!

Auch beim Datenteil merkt man, dass der Fälscher wohl nicht in der Lage war, die lateinischen Buchstaben auf der Vorlage zu entziffern. Sonst hätte er die Daten korrekt eingetragen.

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Re: Oksana <oksanabartanova@yahoo.com>
Antwort #7 - 10. November 2012 um 19:22
 
Boooaahh.... unfassbar ! Ich war ohnedies skeptisch, aber nun die knallharte Realität.... 

Ich danke euch für die prompte Beantwortung. Ihr seid super !!   

LG Robert-o
  
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Re: Oksana <oksanabartanova@yahoo.com>
Antwort #8 - 13. November 2012 um 23:20
 
Die "Dame" gibt nicht auf. Hab heute wieder eine neue Nachricht bekommen. Jetzt will sie mir ein schlechtes Gewissen einreden.


My darling xxx,
I see that you don’t trust me. It is very offensive. I see that
you don’t believe me. I have spent so many forces and money to
come to Moscow and to get this visa and I see that you don’t
appreciate this at all. You have a very strange attitude to me.
From one side you write to me come there, that I am good and
we could have good relations. From the other side you don’t
do anything for us to be together. You write that you don’t believe
me, or you have no money, or something else. I think that you
just don’t want to be happy. When the one wants to be happy he
does everything for this. I did everything I could. But my forces
are limited too. I’ve got visa, I came to Moscow. I’ve spent so
many forces and money for this. But I feel that you don’t appreciate
this. When I asked you about help, you didn’t help me. There is
only one step left before we meet. You just need to send me money
for the ticket and that’s it. I have done so much already and
I think that I deserve this. And I have already proved to you
that I am real many times. I am hurt and offended that you still
don’t believe me. And I see only one way from this situation,
to come back to my city if you don’t send me money for the ticket.
Please, remember that there is only one step left for our happiness.
And you should make this step! You should send me money for
the ticket.
Oksana.

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Re: Oksana <oksanabartanova@yahoo.com>
Antwort #9 - 13. November 2012 um 23:56
 
@ Robert-o

Dann schreibe ihr einmal zurück, dass Du ja schlecht am Wochenende das Geld auf die Reise schicken konntest. Und Du hättest es erst heute ein Western Union Büro finden können.
Auch hättest Du zunächst bei der Fremdenpolizei (oder wie das in Österreich heißt) nachgefragt, ob es Schwierigkeiten wegen dem deutschen Visum gäbe. Und die Auskunft wäre, dass es Probleme in Österreich geben würde. Du kannst sie dann auch gleich fragen, warum sie nicht gleich ein österreichisches Schengenvisum beantragt hätte, wo sie doch weiß (hoffe ich doch), dass Du aus Österreich bist. Jetzt wärst Du nach einer Lösung am suchen. Und vorher willst Du das Geld nicht überweisen. Am Ende müsstest Du noch in das Gefängnis und sie würde ausgewiesen.
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Antwort #10 - 17. November 2012 um 14:04
 
Hier die neueste Korrespondenz der Dame, mit präzisen Informationen zur gewünschten Einzahlung bei Western Union. Die Arme nächtigt am Flughafen in Moskau und wartet dringend auf mein Geld.   Durchgedreht

My darling xxxxxxx,
I am glad, that your aunt will help us.
I am glad, that you wish to send money. 
I need 376 usa dollars.
Yes. I shall send you details of flight when I shall receive your
money and I shall buy the ticket. 
But please hurry up to send it. I should pay the ticket in time.
You can send money here(western union):
INTERCOMMERZ
26 Km Mkad, Torgovyi Tsentr 
Moscow, 115598, Russia
or
MBA-MOSCOW
Schelkovskoe Shosse, 3/1 
Moscow, 105122, Russia
or
ZAPADNYI
Novyi Arbat, 17 
Moscow, 119019, Russia
my full name: Oksana Bartanova.
My plan? I should arrive and enter the university till February, 1st.
To me will submit only documents to any university enough. And my
visa will prolong after that for 5 years. It will prolong for all
term of study. I shall work. I shall work prior to the beginning
of study. So I can pay my residing there and study. Now you
understands my plan? In the first days I can live in campus.
The university will give it free of charge. Therefore I can live
in campus and meet you in your free time. Or I can live with you.
If you want it. I want it. It to solve to you!
I am so tired to be in Moscow. Everything is very expensive here.
And I save money on everything. I do it for us. I want us to be
together and to be happy. I want to come to you and that is why
I am ready to overcome all the difficulties. But I need your help.
There is only one step left – you to send me money. You even can’t
imagine what I have to do here to survive. I stay in a very cheap
hotel as I have no money to live in a good room. I live in one
place with people who have no place to stay in. I stayed even at
the airport some times to save money but the police paid attention
to me and I can’t stay there any more. People are so cruel.
No one can help me here. And you are my only hope. Do you understand
now why I don’t write to you often and don’t call you. If I have
a digital camera here I would show you the life here for you to
see what kind of difficulties I have here. I know that happiness
is not given so easily that is why I try to overcome all the
difficulties on my way. That is why I ask you to send me money
as soon as possible for the ticket. If you don’t help me, then
I will have to get back to my city. And I don’t want this as
I have spent so much forces and money already to get my visa.
There is only one step left to be in your arms and I don’t want
to stop here. And this is a step you should do. Now everything
depends on you. Please, try to understand me and send me money
for the ticket.
I want to tell you one story. I saw it on Tv. It was last year.
And I decided to write to you. There was one woman that She was
born in Russia and lived in Russia. But she is married and her
husband is from  Italy , Rome . She told a story how they met.
They were corresponding for some time and then he invited her
to come to his place. She was concerned at first and didn’t
know to go or not.  But then she decided it would be a good chance
for them to get to know each other. And she agreed. They did all
the paperwork together and he supported her in that and helped
her a lot. Ad at last she came to his place. She said it was so
beautiful and romantic. When they landed she saw him standing
near the airplane with flowers and balloons. There was also a
sign in his arms: “My waiting is over. I love you!!!” She said
it was so touching that she couldn’t stop crying for minutes.
They spent a great time together and She decided to stay with
him forever. They married And at last they were able to be together.
They come here sometimes as her parents live here in Russia.
And they are very happy together. 
I like this story very much and I hope one day we will be able
to feel the same.
Oksana.


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Re: Oksana <oksanabartanova@yahoo.com>
Antwort #11 - 17. November 2012 um 14:17
 
Die Gute übt sich weiterhin im Verschleiern von Mails...


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Antwort #12 - 17. November 2012 um 14:32
 
Vielen Dank für die rasche Info ! 
Wie lange soll ich den Kontakt noch aufrechterhalten und was bringt es ? Die Erkenntnis, dass die Mails "verschleiert" sind haben wir ja schon... Bin neu hier, bitte klärt mich auf.

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@ Robert-o


Wie lange du den Kontakt aufrecht erhältst liegt ganz bei dir. Scam steht jedenfalls hier fest. 

Viele beschäftigen den Scammer so lange bis dieser von selbst aufgibt. 

Diese Burschen dort drüben haben alles außer Zeit! 

Mein Ziel ist immer, die Kerlchen so lange wie möglich zu beschäftigen um ihnen die Zeit zu stehlen.
  
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Antwort #14 - 21. November 2012 um 19:17
 
Der "Einsatz" der Dame hat sich erhöht. Nun will sich mich richtig scharf machen, damit ich endlich Geld schicke.   Durchgedreht

My darling xxxxxxxx!!!!
Why you have not answered?
You wanted to send me money. Have you done it? Have you sent
the money? I hope a lot. If you did, then send me MTCN if you
did it through Western Union or Reference Number if from Moneygram.
Please, let me know if you did. I hope that you have kept your
promise and sent me it. I think that you understand that I am in
Moscow. I want to come to you very much. And I will make us happy.
Please, understand that I can’t stay in Moscow for long time.
It is not my native city. I can stay in Moscow for more 7-8 days.
I am tired to stay in cheap hotels with the homeless people
or in the airport. I do it only for our future. Please, hurry
up with sending money so I can buy a ticket. My visa is issued
only for 2 months. I should leave already or all the money
would spend just useless. Please, try to understand my situation.
And send me the money as soon as possible. Just let me know
if you send the money. Should I wait or no?
I miss you badly... You even can't imagine how hard it is to be
here without you... I need you so much...And dream of our soon
meeting.
I also dream of your touch...so tender and passional. I try to
imagine how it is to kiss your lips, your hands, your strong body. 
I imagine how it is to make love to you...
I love you so much that even have a physical ache sometimes.
I need your strong touch, your lips, want to lick every part of
your body.
I know this is only a dream but it will come true very soon.
Everything depends only on us. We just need to be patient and wait.
But how sweet will be our meeting at last.
I think I would kiss you till death. I am hungry for you, my sweetie.
Hungry for your kiss, for your body. I want you to hold me tightly
and to be with you forever.
Hope you are not scared with my feelings...
I do love you and need you a lot.
Oksana.

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