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Elvira / Elya <sel4ik12@gmail.com> <sel4ik12@hotmail.com>
19. August 2012 um 11:05
 
Good day xxx!
my name is Elvira. I was registered here for one purpose, to find a husband, her husband's note, not a pen pal, not flirting and other communication. I want to find love, to live for him, give him your love, your time, to live for him! I am lonely and would soon change this status to a happy wife! If I'm interested in you, and you're looking for just me, write to me at my e-mail - sel4ik12@gmail.com - I'll wait for your letter. Enjoy your time of day. bye bye!



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Re: Elvira / Elya <sel4ik12@gmail.com> <sel4ik12@hotmail.com>
Antwort #1 - 21. August 2012 um 01:49
 
Hi xxx, I am glad that you wrote to me.
thanks for the photo, I am pleased to see the person who wrote to me.
My name Elya, is the abbreviated name, and if the full name - Elvira.
I want to be able to communicate with you and know you closer.
I'm 25 years old, 07 September, I will be 26 years.
I'm not married. But I'm tired of this monotonous and boring life, because of this I have registered on a dating site.
I would like to find a promising man with whom I could create a strong alliance, a strong family.
I want to be a good wife and an excellent mother, I want to become a mother. This is my dream.
Do you have children? How many of them, if that is? Smiley
Do you smoke? How often do you drink alcohol?
I lead a healthy lifestyle. Do fitness twice a week in the gym.
I'll be waiting for your answer. I would be pleased if you send me your photos.
Bye bye xxx. Your friend Elvira



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Re: Elvira / Elya <sel4ik12@gmail.com> <sel4ik12@hotmail.com>
Antwort #2 - 22. August 2012 um 19:14
 
Hi xxx! I'm glad you told me to my letter!
Thank you I'm good, how are you? How is your mood? as the day begins?
I'm so pleased to read it, I thought that you did not answer me Smiley
But I was wrong, and I'm glad that the first time. Thank you for your compliment.
I'm glad that I liked you, you're too nice person. How old are you?
You have a very good place of residence, you are living from all countries and cities nearby.
You must travel a lot? I like to take this moment to visit all these cities that you have me.
I am pleased your thoughts, I completely agree with you.
Loved one should be in any time, no matter what the band had never been - black or white.
I am very glad that I met you. I hope our relationship will continue and we will get to know each other.
I am alone, I can not tell you who I am, because I had no experience in family life.
I had a meeting, but a serious step, to live together, I did not dare, I'm still alone and lonely.
I live in Russia, in a wonderful city on the river Volga - Syzran, a small town, but beautiful.
I already wrote that I'm looking for a serious man with whom I want to start a family.
All this time I lived only for himself, but this is not correct.
I want to start a family, have children, become a mother and loving wife.
For this I have registered on a dating site, and now I talk to you.
I like you and I would like to know you better by associating this is possible.
Send me more photos if possible, because looking at them I can imagine your world.
How and where do you live, photos imprinted moment of our lives, looking at them, we remember the past,
rejoice in it or on the contrary - we want to return a time when we were good.
But we must live the present, in the past I had a lot of good moments, but it was all in the past.
Although sometimes I think about it, but it's just a thought, and are short-lived.
I digress from the topic of the letter Smiley
I send you my photos that I captured playing bouling, as well as a walk in the park.
I love to go outside, it is useful. when I have no one to take a walk, I walk alone.
Dreaming and thinking about his future life. I love to dream, because if a person wants, he then lived.
I live by this principle, what I want, what I'm doing and what he wants.
And on what basis do you live? What do you want out of life?
Try to tell me this in detail, because I want to know you, because you have me pretty and interesting.
I'll wait for your letter xxx!
Good day to you, bye bye!



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Re: Elvira / Elya <sel4ik12@gmail.com> <sel4ik12@hotmail.com>
Antwort #3 - 25. August 2012 um 05:06
 
Hello my friend xxx - I've just released from work and decided to check his mail.
I have the internet at work. When you have free time I go to my mail.
I saw your letter, it is so nice to read it, it was beautiful.
I am glad that you also want to know me.
I'm glad you spoke to me about the severity, then you're going and you go for it.
I  like It. I would like to meet with you, but we know little of each other.
I can not tell you now, if I see you in September, I was able to find this out until Monday, my boss.
I have a vacation once a year for one month, this year I have not had a rest, if the work is not enough, then I can get a vacation.
I want to talk about his childhood, it is waiting, I did not even see how it went.
because I was very keen on studying, I graduated from high school with honors.
in 17 years, went to the university, I finished it as well.
I focused on my future and did not even notice how I spent my childhood and I did not even notice I was 25 years old.
I missed a lot in life, dating, serious relationships.
In my life there was a real man, I was lonely.
Until then, I have one ex, but I think it's a matter of time, because we have good communication with you.
If you are that she is not satisfied, write to me about it right away, because I do not want to have any secrets.
My parents were strict and I tell them thank you for it.
I have a good education, a good job, but I do not have my other half of my soul and heart.
I would like to find it and share all that I have accumulated in my heart ever since.
I think that my testimony with you we just came together, because I do not want secrets.
But I do not want to rush into a relationship because I want to find true love is based on trust and pure feelings.
because I do not want to have a broken heart, or worse, have a love - when one partner loves and the other uses it.
this mean, do you think? I had such a love in high school when I was little years.
All of this age were mistakes that they remember with a smile.
So here I had a mistake. During his studies at the school in the class of 7.8, I liked a boy.
But I was not interested in it, because in high school I was a beauty than now.
I had dark hair, I was not so beautiful as now, I was a gray mouse.
He did not notice me, and I believed in his heart that he saw me and be with me as sincere as I am to him.
But the years went by and we finished school, he did not find out about my feelings for him.
Because I was very shy.
Thanks to letters, I can not open your inner world, I can tell you about their secrets and desires,
I would not say to anyone listening.
With lively interaction is difficult to explain and find the words to explain to the person what he is looking for and what he wants.
It is this communication that option I was most comfortable with.
When writing letters to me no one is distracted, I write what I want to say and yet I have not been interrupted.
Excuse me for such revelations, but I wanted to tell you this.
tell me the pros and cons of your relationship. What contributed to the destruction of your relationship,
I have not experienced, I have no experience in this and I want to learn from you, you are very interesting xxxx.
I want to learn from you this experience, I want you to tell me all this.
I think that you will be very plunge into the past and remember the good moments.
I hope I did not hurt you, remind you of your past relationship.
But I would be interested to know why you're still alone.
you are a good man, polite, but I do not know much, but I'm in no hurry anywhere.
I wish you a pleasant day. Good mood.
 
PS: I'm sending you my pictures from a walk in the woods. I think you will be pleased to know me from the other side.
 
Bye bye xxx! Your friend Elya



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Re: Elvira / Elya <sel4ik12@gmail.com> <sel4ik12@hotmail.com>
Antwort #4 - 25. August 2012 um 19:54
 
Ist mit großer Wahrscheinlichkeit Scam.
Die erste Mail kam mobil herein, die beiden weiteren Mails vermutlich von zwei Rechnern aus dem gleichen Netzwerk.
Ist es ein Firmennetzwerk, dann haben die vorhandenden Rechner in der Regel eine gleichbleibende IP. 
Da das hier nicht der Fall ist, gehe ich von zwei Rechnern aus.
Auffallend ist, dass alle Rechner (auch der bei der mobilen Einlieferung) für den alleinigen Kontakt in den westeuropäischen Sprachraum konfiguriert worden sind.

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Antwort #5 - 26. August 2012 um 21:52
 
Privet my dear xxx! Do you mind if I start my letter so?
I wrote you Privet - it means - Hello, I hope you understand me.
Thank you for your message xxx, I am happy to read it.
I am very pleased that you're thinking about me, it gives me pleasure Smiley))
I am so pleased that you have commented on my questions and answered them,
it is very good - you will answer my questions, then you pay attention to my letter
I am demanding a girl, but I understand that not all of my needs and wishes really can be done,
because I sometimes comes to mind (my mind) are thinking that it is impracticable to any man on earth,
you're probably thinking that I'm now very much fantasize, but that's how I sometimes behave, I want something that,
which I can not explain myself.
I'd like a girl and I do not like cheating and cheating on me, it's bad.
I told my teacher at the university:
- Everyone has a bowl over his head, which accumulates a sin if it is filled with, part of the sin poured out on you, no matter what you're a man, good or bad.
I believe in it, because I believe that this is so, if a person makes a lot of sins in my life,
that soon he will pour the sin on his head and he was of him never will be able to clean up.
So I advise you not to lie to me and other people, although I can see that you are a sincere person and I believe that you have made in your life much sin, right?
Each letter is more and more looking for a new photo of you, because I want to see you, your life.
pictures say a lot about a person, can you yourself do not see it, but other people.
you do not recognize you draws his conclusions about it, they can not correct, but the first impressions are always first.
When I saw you on your photo, you will immediately seemed to me an interesting person.
I think that everything that I write to you, you know well, if not, send me an okey?
I'm looking for such a person to understand me, I felt that he wanted to make me happy!
to treat me like the air, needed me in the air! because due to the air and the sun we live.
Without air a person can not live, I want to make my favorite treat me as well as he needs air needs.
will only be the purest and most tender feelings, but then people start to value what they have.
and it will not hurt her, it will only seek to her was good.
If this would happen to me one day fate will bring me to such a man, and may have brought, but it takes time to understand it, I'll do all the things that he was the happiest man and proud of what I am and I belong to him !
I'll love it more myself, because my life is his life, and even if such difficult times will come, when the choice either to survive me, or my favorite, I will give my life for him!
I wanted to give someone all of this, and I decided to tell you this, I do not know why, but in my soul have any feelings for you, I can not describe them, because they are not subject to the description, but I think there will be time and we all know.
And now I'm going to finish my writing, I think that's all I wanted to tell you, I said.
remains only to wait for a response from you, I think it will be very soon ..
Enjoy your day! I'll miss your letter!
I hope my letter brought you the same joy as the delicious candy cane Smiley))
Bye bye bye xxx, I'll miss you!

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Antwort #6 - 28. August 2012 um 06:35
 
Privet dear xxx!
How are you? the weather with you?
Today we have been cool on the outside, about 15 degrees and a fine rain.
I do not like the weather, I love the sun and heat, so once the sun me at the moment warm ...
I think you better. I would like to spend your vacation in the warm hands Smiley
But I still do not know when it will be and the more I do not know where I do it because I have never left their country.
What do you usually relax, write me, I'm going to be very interesting if you have a photo of your holiday, then send me your letter okey?
It is a pleasure to read your wonderful letter. I read with interest him, that still in awe of your words.
I apologize to you for a single line, if I offended you this, then forgive me!
"I believe that you have made in your life much sin, right?" - I mean that we each have a little sin.
I hope I will not disappoint you. I am pleased that you are giving me the time and open with me.
I appreciate these moments in life and if you will support me in everything I'll be your wife Smiley)))
Email me, you want to hear what you want to know about me, I am interesting to you?
I think you will be interested to know where I live.
I live alone, rented an apartment in one of the residential areas of the city.
Then quietly, calmly, no one interferes with sleep at night, I like my general location of the apartment.
But sometimes silence tiring me out of this, it becomes very painful. I have no one to share my life.
I want love, give love, warmth, care, but I have one ...
Sometimes I go to my parents on the weekend, they live away from me 1-2 hours away by bus.
They live in a big town, they have their own private house, a lake nearby, forest.
It was there that I made the photos in nature, they are very good.
My father's name is Evgeniy, and my mother Oksana. They are very happy people.
Both have already retired and live rejoicing in their happiness. They have little quarrel, because they love each other.
I am very glad that they own so happy, they did a lot for it to eventually live in peace and harmony.
Previously, my dad worked as an engineer in a construction company, but age does not allow him to continue to work and he is now home.
He is already 55 years old. and it looks very good, because the love of a young Smiley
My mom 50 years older than my mother and father apparently it's very good! my mother worked as a cook.
They met in the dining room is where the mother worked. It's so romantic.
they told me their story dating, it was so romantic and fun.
Now that you know with whom I live and who my parents were, and now I want to hear from you, where you live, with whom to live, right?
Tell us about your childhood, you remember him, do you remember those happy or sad times, on the contrary?
I will finish my letter, I still need to make their case.
Thank you again for your wonderful letter.
I will wait for a response from you, I think you will like my letter.
Good time of day you xxx!
Gently kiss you on the cheek. Bye bye! 

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Antwort #7 - 29. August 2012 um 17:07
 
@ trucker105

Ich denke, dass man sie mal genauer nach ihrer Arbeit fragen sollte. 
Was sie da tun muss und ob es ihr Spass macht. 
Ich hoffe, dass sie auch etwas über ihre Arbeitszeiten berichtet.
Auffallend sind die unterschiedlichen IP-Kreise von unterschiedlichen Proxys der Rostelecom.
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Antwort #8 - 29. August 2012 um 17:11
 
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ich warte seit gestern auf eine Antwort. Bis jetzt hat sie immer umgehend geantwortet.
Mal sehen, wann wieder was kommt.
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Antwort #9 - 30. August 2012 um 10:55
 
Salut my dear xxx!
I want to thank you for your letter, I wish to wait for your letters.
Thank you hold my subject, it is very nice.
Now I understand why you reacted so violently to my words.
I now realize this and once again I ask you to forgive me.
I could not write to you before. I work a lot, is the end of the month and I have a lot of work: (
but I am writing to you as soon as I have free time, I'm sorry.
I'm so glad that we understand each other. I will soon leave and I do not know what to do.
True, I do not know when it will be. But if he's going to be long, I would like to visit you during my vacation.
You know, I want to confess that I think of you in your spare time.
I am happy to open my mail at work, in order to read your letter and respond to it.
but I can not write to you every day, because you yourself have to understand that I'm busy at work.
I take the job even at home. I work as an accountant in a commercial campaign.
I like my job on it I want people depend on me a lot at work.
But me to much, for example at the end of each month I am very busy.
I need to make quarterly reports on interest pay our campaign staff.
And when a lot of work, we have to make it home in time to submit the report.
With each letter, we learn more about each other and I think that's good.
today we have good weather. On the street there are no clouds. I love when the sun shines brightly on the street is fine.
I like to walk in the afternoon with friends in this weather, but because of the work I do not always work.
Yesterday after work I went and saw a man and a woman said something to each other. I knew what they were talking about love.
I became very jealous girl who was happy with the man. She was about my age or maybe younger.
In my dreams I'm going with my man. We look at each other in the face, and we are happy because we are together.
We sit in any restaurant or coffee shop and enjoy the fact that we are together.
look each other in the eye and talk about interesting topics for both of us, laughing and having fun together.
I think every woman wants that. I do not know whether it will be when be, but I would like this!
I hope that the time will come and I will have my love. I do not feel for a long time, and I want to feel it a lot!
Now I'm looking for a single man of my heart. I want this man loved me and I loved him for life.
I want to continue a relationship with you. I want to believe that all of us can get.
Although a great distance between us. I want to see you next to me and talk to you.
I want to wish you good mood these days and do not forget me. Smiley
I'll look forward to your letter, and I will miss you!!
With all due respect to you, your friend Elvira! 



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Antwort #10 - 31. August 2012 um 19:45
 
Hello my dear xxx!
How are you? You did not miss my letter?
Thanks for your response, I am glad to learn about you more and more.
Every day of our correspondence we learn more deeply about each other, and it's very interesting, because I'm interested in you.
xxx, I forgot this confusion, I hope you also forget it Smiley)
Yesterday after work, my friend invited me to sit in a cafe, eat Japanese food.
She was not alone, but with her fiance, she will soon be married.
They were so happy, light, rejoiced that together.
And I sat smiling, happy for them and thought of you, so you also want to be together with me and we were laughing, smiling, happy because we share time together!
I looked at my friend and I thought about it, I felt so lonely and sad.
But after we ate a traditional Japanese food, we packed to go home.
I was happy for her friend that she would soon be happy that she is doing this important step and will be a loving wife.
I would like to know what you love to have in your usual dinner, whether you like to cook, and what cuisine do you prefer?
I love to cook very much, I think that if we were together with you, then I would have prepared a nice dinner, and maybe a romantic dinner...
I think that with you xxx can spend a wonderful time, and it would be my happiest time, was a very pleasant person to me, I dream of this day...
I hope that you perceive it properly, and react to me and to my request seriously.
I'll wait for the answer to my question, I expect from you any answer, I want to know your opinion...
I'll wait for a letter from you my dear xxx!
and the question of the organization of the meeting should be addressed jointly to
to decide on the date, I'll have to make sure that all
happens between us seriously and permanently, because I want you to
was mine. and only mine. you are an interesting person. I am with you still,
well, I like you and soul attractive physically.
My boss said I was going to have a holiday in the middle of September, so
what we need is determined by the organization of the meeting. I want to spend
your holiday with you. I want this, I want to feel your breath,
excitement, your care and love! I want it all!
tell me the closest airport to you xxx, I know all
necessary information, how can I fly to you, and what I need!
I kiss you, I give you my first kiss =**
Have a nice time of the day...
 
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Re: Elvira / Elya <sel4ik12@gmail.com> <sel4ik12@hotmail.com>
Antwort #11 - 01. September 2012 um 09:54
 
Die Sache beginnt, ins Rollen zu kommen. Da sie ihre Mails ja von der Arbeit schreibt, muss sie am frühen Morgen noch mit Freunden Essen gewesen sein! 
Ich weiß ja nicht, ob die Cafes in Russland noch so lange aufhaben. Ich war zu solchen Zeiten bereits schlafen gegangen!
Vielleicht bekommen wir hier ja noch einen Pass!

Wenn sie Mitte September kommen will, dann muss sie sich jetzt mächtig beeilen. 
Den Reisepass sollte sie schon haben, sonst wird es ganz schön eng.
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Antwort #12 - 02. September 2012 um 11:14
 
Privetik my good xxx!
I'm glad of what I read your letter.
you know I'm always thinking of you. I want to confess to you, I'm in love with you.
all our knowledge is a big turn in my life and this change for the better for me. every day I see it better and better.
I think of you at work, I think of you at home, I think of you when I go to work, I think about you in the street.
I am very joyful when I open my inbox to read your letter with great pleasure to answer it.
I feel sad when I see posts from you, but I understand it.
Reading your letters, my soul rises above the earth and want to fly, I do not know how to describe this feeling, but I'm very good on you!
I feel that love comes into our hearts. Now I became more cheerful, energetic and vivacious woman.
this I was told by my colleagues and I have noticed it myself.
they tell me that I was to shine like the sun. I always go bright and happy. and I think that it is because of you.
I can not explain why women are attracted to men. I can not explain why a man pulls a woman.
I think that's how nature and this can not be changed.
I am also afraid to tell you that you came into my heart, because I know that you feel me ...
Perhaps I'm early to tell, but what I feel right now - is a flight above the ground! Smiley
Thank you sent me the nearest airport, I'll be glad to know this
information. Today I did not have time to go to the travel agency, I
was very busy with their work. But tomorrow I will be going there to
find the necessary information.
My dear, my dear xxx, I'm glad that I'm familiar with you.
I want to be confident in you, to be yours! I want to trust you, love you.
And I'll be waiting for a letter from you with impatience. I'm curious what you think about my writing and my feelings for you.
you agree with me or do you think otherwise.
I can hurry the event? Smiley
 
your beloved Elvira! : *)
 
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Re: Elvira / Elya <sel4ik12@gmail.com> <sel4ik12@hotmail.com>
Antwort #13 - 03. September 2012 um 06:06
 
Hello my sweet xxx! Thank you for your letter, I am glad to get it!
I'm really happy for your wonderful letter. Every day we become brighter and more familiar.
I am glad of it. It seems to me that you're honest with me, and that our hearts begin to beat at the same frequency. We begin to feel warm and tender feelings.
I would like to ask you, how would you like to change your life in the future, what would you change it?
I now want to change it completely, I want to change their place of residence, to have a happy and loving family, get a new job, get tops on the paper. I have a lot of different plans, I try to make them come true.
And most importantly, I want to build a strong family. I hope your plans for the future as there are such plans, I hope so.
I apologize to you, because I was at the weekend with his parents, and because of that I could not write to you as often as I would like.
we can communicate with you in msn, I have a new address, I made just for you - sel4ik12@hotmail.com - I do not have skype, so I did msn.
we will need to determine the time when we can talk there.
And about the trip for you, I will find out tomorrow that information in the travel agency, because I could not take the time today and go there.
But tomorrow at lunch time I will do it, and will write you a letter, in which I tell you everything.
Thank you very much that you will help me, but I think that I myself could handle the paperwork and purchase tickets.
Every morning I wake up and I start to think of you, I sometimes call coworkers your name.
Do you think that I am not very well, but I agree with you when it comes into our hearts love, increases the heart rate, it starts pounding so loud and you fill your whole body and soul emotion. They bring you joy in your life, it is a disease, I'm sick at the moment. I have joy in my heart and I do not want to be healthy, I want to delve into it and be happy.
I hope you also feel a real sense to me, and in your heart, there are fancy, you can share them?
Now I'll look for some pictures, which I did recently, I want to send them to you.
I'm sending you a photo from my trip to the exhibition of exotic animals.
I took pictures with a large snake and lizard. At first I was very afraid to touch them, because I had never seen them in such proximity.
But after I gathered courage and did it, I got a lot of emotions from that, I'm glad I was able to overcome his fear.
And on the other photographs I have a normal girl, I am sending you pictures taken at different times of the year. there is even a winter Smiley)))
Now I do not have enough attention and warmth. I would like to cuddle up to a strong man's shoulder and feel its warmth.
It's just a dream, it warms me already.
I kiss you and I hope that your feelings are mutual.
Bye bye bye my man of my dreams!



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