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Mariya <mabel5@lenta.ru>
04. Oktober 2010 um 18:45
 
Hallo an Alle,

ich bin seit einiger Zeit an einer Dame dran, die sich Masha nennt (als Koseform von Mariya) Nach 5 emails wollten wir nun ein Treffen vereinbaren, zunächst bei mir. Sie schreibt mir folgendes:


Zitat:

You know, today morning I was in a travel agency and they told me that the best and safest say for me to travel to you

is to buy a tour there and in this case there will be no problems with a visa and something like that.

The manager told me that it would be a hot tour so it would be much cheaper than an usual tour.

The price consists of a passport which will cost me 270 Euro and it will take me 1 week to make it,

a tourist visa which will cost me 230 Euro an it will take me 3 days to make it, an insurance which costs

176 Euro and the tickets which are 535 Euro. And I also asked them

if you can send me the tickets but they told that in this case I will

not be able to get a visa because in order to get a tourist visa I

have to buy the whole trip in the travel agency and the tickets are

included in it. My honey, I must confess that its very high price for me and I cant afford to

pay for this tour, even my relatives cant help me with it. And I cant take a loan 'cause 

I have to small salary for it, a bank will not give me it. I'm very ashamed to ask you for help
 


Dieser Punkt wird bereits in "Einreise von der Ukraine nach Deutschland" im Forum diskutiert.
Nachdem ich ihr geschrieben hab, das mir das zu teuer ist und ich doch besser zu ihr komme schreibt sie - 
und jetzt kommt der Hammer -:"Dont be surprised that its quiet expensive for me to come to your country."


Zitat:
Ukraine is not in EU so that's why we still need visa and other documents for the travelling. Of course you can come in Ukraine if you think its better and easier for you. To tell you the truth I would be happy to spend a

holiday in a nice hotel! What do you think about it, honey?

I can tell you that last year my friends went to Illychevsk, the town near Odessa.

Its in about 15 minutes by car from Odessa.

Its very small, clean and not crowded.Its very nice and cosy.

The hotel they stayed in was really great! Its name is "Seven winds".

It would be nice to stay there. What do you think about it?

Here is the web page where you can see the hotel

with your own eyes: www.sevenwinds.at.ua

Tell me what you think about it, OK?"


Die Homepage existiert, ist aber sehr lausig n.m.E. andererseits für die Ukraine wahrscheinlich ok. Sone HP kann man sicher in 2-3 Stunden auf die Beine stellen wenn man sich auskennt. Ich hab im gesamten Web nichts über dieses Hotel gefunden, auch nicht übers Telefonbuch. Auch die Strasse scheint es dort nicht zu geben. Sie behauptet aus Stebnyk, Lemberg zu kommen und dort als Model zu arbeiten.

Für mich scheint das ein professioneller Betrugsversuch zu werden. 
Was würdet ihr mir anraten, bzw wie soll ich weiter vorgehen? 
Kann ich das abhaken?






Off Topic KommentarMore pictures in the gallery: Smiley


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Re: Mariya <mabel5@lenta.ru>
Antwort #1 - 04. Oktober 2010 um 19:52
 
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stelle bitte alle Header,Briefe und Fotos rein ! je mehr wir haben, desto schneller, können wir dir helfen!!
  
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178.95.149.69 - Geo Information
IP Address     178.95.149.69
Host     69-149-95-178.pool.ukrtel.net
Location     UA UA, Ukraine
City     Belovodsk, 14 -
Organization     JSC Ukrtelecom
ISP     JSC Ukrtelecom
AS Number     AS6849 JSC UKRTELECOM,
Latitude     49°20'44" North
Longitude     39°58'11" East
Distance     1447.21 km (899.25 miles) 


Mail über Belovodsk, Ukraine. Könnte Mobil sein.

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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 13:16:31 +0300

Zeitzone Ukraine, Belarus, Baltische Staten, Kaliningrad, Finnland, Ost-Europa
  
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Re: Mariya <mabel5@lenta.ru>
Antwort #3 - 04. Oktober 2010 um 20:34
 
Ohhh - das wird ein Stück Arbeit, auch verstehe ich noch immer nicht was man mit dem Header anfangen kann, laut Header Analysis kommen Mails, die ich mir selbst geschrieben habe mal aus Ansbach, mal aus Bamberg und mal aus Nürnberg. Aber zum Glück muss ichs ja nicht verstehen, es reicht ja wenn ihr es versteht (und ja den Beitrag über Header hab ich gelesen und auch net verstanden Zwinkernd) ). Gut, dass es Euch gibt!!!!!!

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Brief 1

Hey, dear! 

How are you there today? I'm Masha!
Do you remember me from the dating site?
Your profile touched me and I decided to know yo better!
If you are also looking for serious relations I would be
happy to receive your reply! Kiss, Masha.

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Brief 2:

Hi, Chris! Its pleasant to receive your e-mail!

The photos you've sent me are really nice, thank you! You have kind eyes and I feel I can trust you. Really. Hope you are also not fake:-))

I think the Internet is a tool that

gives us the opportunity to know each other. Maybe I will not be original if

I start my letter in such way, but what else can I tell to the person I liked it

at the first sight. I've read some romantic stories about love. I

think there is a lot of ways to get acquainted with somebody.

It seems the Internet is the most popular way of acquaintance of this century.

I know some people consider it as a waste of time, but I see it as an opportunity

to change something and make your life more interesting and exciting.

Maybe you think the same way, if you read these words. My intentions are banal

just the same as the first line of my letter. It is difficult to find

a woman who would not dream about loving and attentive man; what else? I think everything else is not very important.

I am a woman who loves life; I am a woman who feels the run blood in my veins.

But this life is not complete without love of a man. I am not sure if

there is some man who will be brave enough to build relations with

a woman who loves the life. I'm searching for a real and right man.

Love can be accepted and overcome everything. I cannot give a definite description

of a man I want to see by my side, but I know for sure that I do not

need a prince. I need a normal man. Unfortunately I have not found him

here in Ukraine and it’s the main reason

why I’m looking for my man abroad. Can I hope that this man can be you?

I’m 25 and I live in nice small city Stebnyk that is in the west of Ukraine.

To tell you the truth I was always dreaming about something more than just living

in this country and doing just a usual job. I'm working as a model in

a local model agency. I was studying English at school so its not a problem

for me to communicate with a foreigner. One day I was so disappointed with my life

so I decided to try. Why not? Besides my friend Katya is also communicating with a

man from another country. His name is Michael and he is from the UK.

She visited him in his country and they liked each other a lot and now they

are planning their wedding. He is much older than she but I think its not the

main thing in relations because the most important is feeling and love between

2 persons. So you dont have to worry about your age at all.

I hope I will be as lucky as she and my man will take me to his

country and make me happy! I have never been abroad but its my inner

dream! I also want to ask you a couple of questions which will help me

to know you a little bit better. If its not hard for you answer them

please when you have time, OK? Where do you think the most beautiful

girls live? A lot of people are telling that beautiful girls live in

Ukraine and Russia but as I have never ben abroad I cant tell exactly.

I also would love to ask you something about your country. What is the

level of life in your country? How is everything there? What is the

age when people are usually getting married? When do they planning to

have children? I'm wondering about it. Here people are getting married

at about 25 years in average. And usually a woman is younger than a

man. I like soft music, sometimes I’m listening to classic. I can consider dancing as my hobby though

I’m not a professional. I’m also doing sports regularly. I enjoy fitness in the evening.

Its really a pleasure. I like watching DVD in the evening. A nice romantic comedy

helps me to forget about my problems and work. Sometimes I enjoy visiting small

cafes with my friends. We can talk for hours just about everything and

it’s a real relax for me! 

To tell you the truth I don’t want to seem boring and to tell you about everything now.

I will not talk a lot maybe like other women. Each woman has to be mysterious so I

prefer to be such woman. I believe you are nice and honest man. If you are interested

I will be waiting for your response and then I will tell you more about me and

we will see what will happen! OK? Waiting for your answer!

Sincerely, Masha.

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Brief 3:

Hello from Ukraine, dear Chris! How is everything with you?

I as happy to see your nice photos, thanks a lot!

You know, I dont think that my level of English is too good.

And I also dont think that only fakes speak English well.

I cant see any logic here. I think it was a mistake in my profile as for my location 'cause I have never been abroad as I told you in my previous letter.

To tell you the truth I hardly woke up today because my boss called

me yesterday evening and asked me to go to work. There was an urgent

order on the autumn clothes catalogue so a photograph should take

a few photos of me. I was at home only at 1am. I was very tired.

But despite of that I woke up early today because I knew that

you will write me, my dear. I think sometimes we dont know what is waiting for us over

the corner. For example my parents we studying together at the same university and

met each other every day but they could not imagine that they will marry and be

happy with each other. They graduated from the University and only in 5 years met

occasionally. But since that day they could not live separately. Even today they

need each other like a ground needs water and like a human needs air. Its weird

but it’s a miracle!

My father is a worker on a plant and my mother is a shop-assistant. They don’t have

a lot of money but they are happy together. It proves that people can be happy without

money and I really believe in it. I have an older brother. His name is Alexandr.

But he is already married and lives in another city so we see each other not very often.

As for me I live with my parents. Some time ago I had a period in my life when I

was not dating anyone for about 1 year and my mother told me that I have to find

someone because she could not see me alone. But I told that its better to be alone

than to meet a person you don’t like and don’t trust.

I still believe that its true. Yes, its difficult do find a compatible person but its

happening every day around the whole world! People are meeting, dating and get married.

One day it will also happen to me because I believe in it! Every morning I wake up

with dreams about family and children. I’m dreaming about happiness.

I believe that people cant live without dreams. They say we live when we love.

o then I want to live! Sorry about my philosophical points but I just wanted to

explain you what I have in my soul. I want you to understand me because

understanding is very important in the beginning. Love is like a favorite

perfume which smell you cant feel on yourself because it really suits you but

which is with you every day and every night. And you just cant let it go.

I will be also waiting for your next letter and hope it will be not less

interesting than a previous one!

Sincerely with best wishes, Masha.

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Brief 4:

Nice to hear from you again, dear Chris!

How is everything with you? I'm very happy to continue our dialogue

and to have tet-a-tet conversation with you. Its very interesting and

exciting for me to know you better and better day by day.

It was a pleasure for me to see your nice photos, thanks a lot!

I would also love to know your parents story. How and when did they

meet each other? Was it romantics like it was with my parents?

I did not tell you that I'm looking for a man form Western Europe.

Its not important for me where he will live.

I've just have not found anyone here so that's why I started to look abroad.

I thought I explained you about it. Thank you for explaining me about scammers.

I'm not like that for sure. I know English well and I'm not using the 

services of any translation agency. But I dont know any German words:-)

Of course I would be happy to come to Germany

in order to meet you but I dont have any documents for travelling.

If you want I can visit a travel agency and find out what I need for the trip.

Is this a good idea? You know, I can't say that I have a lot of free time. But when I have it I like to spend it in doing different things. In general, I like active rest.

I like to go out with my friends. To visit some nice places I can call

favorite. It's some bars, I feel comfortable being in.

I like to be at sea. I adore sun and water. Being at sea, I like to

swim and to take sun bath. I like to sit near the sea

and to enjoy colors of waves, to feel the light wind on my face and

the smell of sea. I would gladly share such moments with my beloved

one. I think it would be very romantic.

In general I don't drink alcohol but in case I enjoy good wine. It

could be romantic dinner together or just peaceful evening near the

fair place with a glass of wine and fruits.

I adore cooking. I like preparing different Ukrainian dishes. for

example borsch, solyanka and other soups. Do you like soups?

I also can prepare some Japanese dishes. For example sushi and rolls.

I'm fond of these dishes! My favorite cuisine is Italian.

I adore cooking spaghetti with Italian white sauce or for example

lazagne. Do you like it? what is your favorite dish?

Hope to prepare something for you soon.

I must confess that I am missing you more and more, I dream about you and me

together, watching TV lying on the soft sofa, and looking outside

window, where it is warm and sunny. Maybe its wrong, but I do.

I hope that very soon we will be together, you and me...

And the whole world belongs to us...

My dearest, how life treats you, what interesting happened to you these

days when we were away from each other?

I do not know what I would do if there would no Internet existing. How

could we find each other?

I am afraid to imagine that I would live without a thought that you

exist somewhere.

I'm sending you a piece of my heart with lots of kisses!

Yours Masha.

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Brief 5:

Hi, my honey Chris,

thank you very much for your answer with nice photos, I'm very happy that you're ready to have me in your place,

I would be very happy to see you and to come to you, my honey. It would be just great! You know I like sea more than mountains. And what about you? 

I left RE 'cause there was a lot of not serious men. Why do I need to write them?

Moreover I've found you and I dont want to communicate with any other men. 

As for tattoos yes, I like them:-)

You know, today morning I was in a travel agency and they told me that the best and safest say for me to travel to you

is to buy a tour there and in this case there will be no problems with a visa and something like that.

The manager told me that it would be a hot tour so it would be much cheaper than an usual tour.

The price consists of a passport which will cost me 270 Euro and it will take me 1 week to make it,

a tourist visa which will cost me 230 Euro an it will take me 3 days to make it, an insurance which costs

176 Euro and the tickets which are 535 Euro. And I also asked them

if you can send me the tickets but they told that in this case I will

not be able to get a visa because in order to get a tourist visa I

have to buy the whole trip in the travel agency and the tickets are

included in it. My honey, I must confess that its very high price for me and I cant afford to

pay for this tour, even my relatives cant help me with it. And I cant take a loan 'cause 

I have to small salary for it, a bank will not give me it. I'm very ashamed to ask you for help but

I just have no other choice to be together with you. I'm sure that we will be the happiest couple in the world!

My dear, I would be very grateful to you for your help and I hope that we will be together very soon!

I will be waiting for your reply with great impatience, kiss you, only

yours Masha.

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Der Rest ist ja bekannt. Ist mir zwar ein bisschen unangenehm, mein Privatleben hier auszubreiten, aber wenn es der Wahrheitsfindung dient, muss man wohl Opfer bringen.  unentschlossen
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Antwort #5 - 04. Oktober 2010 um 20:50
 
@ ChrisCross

Deine Emailadresse war 16 mal in der Headers!!
Bitte vorsicht sonnst bekommst du viel Spam!!

Ich habe es ersetzt mit xxxxxx
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Antwort #6 - 04. Oktober 2010 um 20:59
 
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92.112.152.24 - Geo Information
IP Address     92.112.152.24
Host     24-152-112-92.pool.ukrtel.net
Location     UA UA, Ukraine
City     Horlivka, 05 -
Organization     Ukrtelecom ADSL broadband access network
ISP     JSC Ukrtelecom
AS Number     AS6849 JSC UKRTELECOM,
Latitude     48°30'00" North
Longitude     38°05'00" East
Distance     1304.14 km (810.36 miles) 


Über Horlivka, Ukraine


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178.95.27.140 - Geo Information
IP Address     178.95.27.140
Host     140-27-95-178.pool.ukrtel.net
Location     UA UA, Ukraine
City     Kiev, 13 -
Organization     JSC Ukrtelecom
ISP     JSC Ukrtelecom
AS Number     AS6849 JSC UKRTELECOM,
Latitude     50°43'33" North
Longitude     30°51'67" East
Distance     1021.45 km (634.70 miles) 


Mobil über Kiev, Ukraine


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IP Address     92.112.42.109
Host     109-42-112-92.pool.ukrtel.net
Location     UA UA, Ukraine
City     Perevalsk, 14 -
Organization     Ukrtelecom ADSL broadband access network
ISP     JSC Ukrtelecom
AS Number     AS6849 JSC UKRTELECOM,
Latitude     48°43'92" North
Longitude     38°81'56" East
Distance     1362.29 km (846.49 miles) 


Über Peravalsk, Ukraine


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IP Address     178.95.143.149
Host     149-143-95-178.pool.ukrtel.net
Location     UA UA, Ukraine
City     Kiev, 13 -
Organization     JSC Ukrtelecom
ISP     JSC Ukrtelecom
AS Number     AS6849 JSC UKRTELECOM,
Latitude     50°43'33" North
Longitude     30°51'67" East
Distance     1021.45 km (634.70 miles) 


Mobil über Kiev, Ukraine


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IP Address     178.95.203.191
Host     191-203-95-178.pool.ukrtel.net
Location     UA UA, Ukraine
City     Kiev, 13 -
Organization     JSC Ukrtelecom
ISP     JSC Ukrtelecom
AS Number     AS6849 JSC UKRTELECOM,
Latitude     50°43'33" North
Longitude     30°51'67" East
Distance     1021.45 km (634.70 miles) 


Mobil über Kiev, Ukraine

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:49:48 +0300
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:38:00 +0300
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:37:47 +0300
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Zeitzone Ukraine, Belarus, Baltische Staten, Kaliningrad, Finnland. Ost-Europa
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Re: Mariya <mabel5@lenta.ru>
Antwort #7 - 04. Oktober 2010 um 21:06
 
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The price consists of a passport which will cost me 270 Euro and it will take me 1 week to make it,
a tourist visa which will cost me 230 Euro an it will take me 3 days to make it, an insurance which costs
176 Euro and the tickets which are 535 Euro.


Das ist wirklich billig!!!  Zwinkernd

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My honey, I must confess that its very high price for me and I cant afford to
pay for this tour, even my relatives cant help me with it. And I cant take a loan 'cause
I have to small salary for it, a bank will not give me it. I'm very ashamed to ask you for help but
I just have no other choice to be together with you.


Immer dieselbe ausreden haben die Scammer!!!
Sie geht jetzt doch auf Urlaub!! Nach die Ukraine!! Laut lachend

Und diese Reise kostet nichts!!!

Smiley Smiley und gute Reise!!
  
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Re: Mariya <mabel5@lenta.ru>
Antwort #8 - 04. Oktober 2010 um 21:21
 
...was sagt ihr zu der Geschichte mir dem Hotel? Ich dachte ich schlage ihr ein anderes Hotel, zB in Kiew vor, um zu sehen, wie sie reagiert... Und ich hock dann in Kiew und keiner kommt - da kann man doch echt nichts richtig machen?!?

Ähhh - und was sagt mir das jetzt mit den Headers??  hä?
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Re: Mariya <mabel5@lenta.ru>
Antwort #9 - 04. Oktober 2010 um 21:30
 
Headhunter schrieb on 04. Oktober 2010 um 21:08:
und ich glaube sie hier schon gesehen zu haben  unentschlossen


Das stimmt!!! Ich kenne das gesicht auch. Zwinkernd

  
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Re: Mariya <mabel5@lenta.ru>
Antwort #10 - 04. Oktober 2010 um 21:37
 
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...was sagt ihr zu der Geschichte mir dem Hotel? Ich dachte ich schlage ihr ein anderes Hotel, zB in Kiew vor, um zu sehen, wie sie reagiert... Und ich hock dann in Kiew und keiner kommt - da kann man doch echt nichts richtig machen?!?

wenn du mich fragst, vergiss das ganze!!! die Briefe sind die Üblichen!! das mit dem Hotel ist auch nichts neues!! die Header kommen auch von verschiedenen Städten!! z.B. Kiev und Gorlovka, sind weit auseinander.

und noch mal, wenn ein Mädel so aussieht, sucht sie nicht übers Internet!!!
  
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Re: Mariya <mabel5@lenta.ru>
Antwort #11 - 04. Oktober 2010 um 21:40
 
scambuster schrieb on 04. Oktober 2010 um 21:30:
Das stimmt!!! Ich kenne das gesicht auch. 

aber hau mich nicht, wenn es eine von meinen war  Zwinkernd Laut lachend

es ist die Nase, die passt irgendwie nicht, deswegen kommt sie mir bekannt vor unentschlossen
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Re: Mariya <mabel5@lenta.ru>
Antwort #12 - 04. Oktober 2010 um 21:53
 
Headhunter schrieb on 04. Oktober 2010 um 21:40:
scambuster schrieb am Heute um 21:30:
Das stimmt!!! Ich kenne das gesicht auch. 

aber hau mich nicht, wenn es eine von meinen warZwinkernd Laut lachend

es ist die Nase, die passt irgendwie nicht, deswegen kommt sie mir bekannt vor unentschlossen


Die Nase ist wirklich markant - ein bisschen groß, aber insgesamt hübsch anzusehen.

@ rexmundi

Hast Du auch Huddel in Deiner Frauenhorde?  Laut lachend Laut lachend Laut lachend
  
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Re: Mariya <mabel5@lenta.ru>
Antwort #13 - 04. Oktober 2010 um 23:40
 
...ich störe Euch ja nur ungern in Eurer Unterhaltung, aber kann mir mal einer nen Tipp geben, wie ich da am besten weitermachen soll?? Augenrollen
  
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Re: Mariya <mabel5@lenta.ru>
Antwort #14 - 04. Oktober 2010 um 23:46
 
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Sorry Zwinkernd

am besten verlangst du erst mal ihren Pass !!!

weil ohne Pass, kein Geld!!!

und sage ihr ruhig, das du weder das Hotel, noch die Straße gefunden hast Zwinkernd
  
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