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Re: Marina <marinamel4@rambler.ru>
Antwort #15 - 08. Mai 2010 um 14:18
 
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Das ist ganz einfach zu erklären:
- Der Beitrag von Anna / Anytka <velichanna@rambler.ru> ist erst vom 03.05.
- Dieser hier ist vom 17.04. - also ca. 14 Tage älter und wir konnten seinerzeit keinen weiteren Hinweis finden.
- Wir machen das hier auch nur in unserer Freizeit, da wir alle nebenbei auch noch Geld verdienen müssen.
- Nicht immer kommt man deshalb dazu ALLE Beiträge genauestens zu lesen.
- Fragen können wir auch nur beantworten, wenn sie uns gestellt werden.

Hier hast du einen Link, wo statische und dynamische IP erklärt werden: Smiley

  
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Re: Marina <marinamel4@rambler.ru>
Antwort #16 - 12. Mai 2010 um 18:04
 
Hallo sie schreibt mir wieder.will mich besuchen.Würde mich nur mal interessieren ob das mit den Preisen stimmt und mit den Wartezeiten.
Bitte um Info.

Spoiler für Quelltext:
From - Wed May 12 17:15:51 2010
X-Account-Key: account1
X-UIDL: 103013988
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-Mozilla-Keys:                                                                                 
Received: from [81.19.66.15] (helo=maile.rambler.ru)
     by mx50.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE 4.110 #4)
     id 1OCDTh-0004oT-00
     for xxxx; Wed, 12 May 2010 17:04:05 +0200
Received: from COMP35 (unknown [178.95.52.104])
     (Authenticated sender: marinamel4@rambler.ru)
     by maile.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0828B1A25081
     for <xxxx>; Wed, 12 May 2010 19:04:04 +0400 (MSD)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 18:04:08 +0300
From: Marina Meln <marinamel4@rambler.ru>
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Message-ID: <1604496231.20100512180408@rambler.ru>
To: =?iso-8859-15?Q?xxxx>
Subject: from Marina
In-Reply-To: <4BE97349.3070006@web.de>
References: <4BE97349.3070006@web.de>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Return-Path: marinamel4@rambler.ru


Hello, my dearest xxxx!

How are you doing? How are things going on over there? Thank's a lot
for your nice letter, it lifted my mood.

I like when we communicate daily. It's raining heavily here now. I
forgot an umbrella today, because when I went out in the morning
the sky was clear, there were no clouds, nothing promised rain. but it
started almost an hour ago, and it's a heavy rain. So, all my clothes
is wet after the walk under the rain. but it's ok, I came to the
Internet cafe and now the only thing which is important for me is our
communication! Kuss

I'm very happy to know that you want to see me very much! I want this
too, I think that first meeting would be just a start of a nice
relationship.

We already move step by step. You send me that link, today I spent my
day off visiting the passport office and finding out more information
about my trip. So, here is what I learned new about this today.

To get passport is possible and quite easy. but it's not free of
charge. The amount of money I need to pay for my passport depends on
the time how long I wait for my passport. So, to get my passport in
usual period I would need to pay 75 euro (I will calculate in euro, so
it would be easier for you to understand things, ok?). This usual
period means 3 months of waiting. so if I pay this money and apply for
my passport this way I will get it ready at the beginning of August.
It's too late, as we speak about the meeting in the middle of summer,
so this variant is not ok for me.

another way is to get my passport faster: within one month, which
would cost me 125 euro. So, if I apply for passport in May I would get
my passport in the middle of June. But I can not apply for passport
this way because 125 euro is moire than my month salary, I simply can
not pay the whole salary for passport now.

To get passport within one week would cost me 160 euro. IT's a big
amount of money, but it's fast.

You write me about the invitation. to get the visa with the invitation
takes a very long time, several months, so we will be unable to meet
in time we discussed before. Because I would need to make my passport
first, for this I need to have money I mentioned above, than to made a
medical insurance, which also costs money, than to apply for visa - to
pay all consulate payments, go to the embassy to have an interview, to
stay in Kiev for several days. Actually if I make visa with the help
of invitation I need to go to the embassy three times: one time to
apply for my visa, the second time to have my interview and the third
time to get my visa ready. All those three trips will cost me very
expensive, as Kiev is a very expensive city. I tried to calculate
approximate amount of money I would need to make my visa this way, and
I got the following number: 600-650 euro. That is tooo much money.

but I was advised to do another thing. Please, read it, I hope
tomorrow in your reply letter you will tell me your thoughts about
everything and tomorrow we will find the best idea about everything,
ok?

I was advised to use the travel agency. I visited two well-knows
travel agencies in my town and got some information: the travel agency
has an agreement with the passport office, and with their help I can
get my passport within 1 weeks for 120 euro. In a passport office they
told me to get passport within one week would cost me 160 euro. so,
with the help of the travel agency it's cheaper.

Than, if the travel agency helps me to make passport faster and on
cheaper price I can apply for my tourist visa with their help too.
The visa doesn't cost expensive, with the travel agency's help it
would cost me 60 euro. But just to compare: if the travel agency makes
visa for me I don;t need to go to the embassy three times, so I can
save a big amount of money. Than I need to make a medical insurance,
which would cost me 70 euro. IT will be ready fast too. The travel
agency can make visa for me within 10 days.

So, if to get my passport with the help of the travel agency takes 7
days, than 10 more days to get visa it means I can have my papers
ready within 3 weeks. that is very nice, I think, much faster than I
make it by myself, and it's much cheaper. IT means that if I make my
passport and apply for visa in May it will be ready at the beginning,
or in the middle of June, and in July we can easily meet.

IF to compare finances, I told you that if I would make visa by myself
I would spend 600-650 euro, if I make papers with the help of the
travel agency it would cost me just 250 euro. That is more than two
times cheaper.

Please, xxxx, think well about everything and tell me your thoughts
in details. We need to find the best solution for our meeting. Hope to
get your letter very soon. I'm very excited that we plan to meet and
I will do my best to make this dream to come true, we just need to
find the best solution for this meeting. Wish you a lovely evening,
send you my kisses and wait for your reply,

your Marina

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Re: Marina <marinamel4@rambler.ru>
Antwort #17 - 12. Mai 2010 um 18:27
 
jörn45 schrieb on 12. Mai 2010 um 18:04:
The visa doesn't cost expensive, with the travel agency's help it
would cost me 60 euro. But just to compare: if the travel agency makes
visa for me I don;t need to go to the embassy three times, so I can
save a big amount of money.

Ob dieser Preis stimmt, kann ich nicht sagen. Das eigentliche Visum kostet für Ukrainer 35 Euro. Welche Kosten ein beauftragtes externes Dienstleistungsunternehmen aufschlägt, weiß ich nicht. Definitiv ist diese Variante seit Mitte 2009 möglich.

Was die anderen Kosten betrifft, da kann ich nichts zu sagen. Auf jeden Fall scheint sie die 50 Euro pro Reisetag vergessen zu haben, die sie nachweisen muss.

Die Mail selber kommt über Ukraine Telecom:
Code
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IPv4-adress:  178.95.52.104
addr-out:   104-52-95-178.pool.ukrtel.net

inetnum:    178.92.0.0 - 178.95.255.255
netname:    UA-UKRTELECOM-20091215
descr:    JSC "Ukrtelecom"
org:    ORG-USTC1-RIPE
country:    UA
 

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Re: Marina <marinamel4@rambler.ru>
Antwort #18 - 12. Mai 2010 um 21:26
 
Die deutschen Konsulate in Russland, benötigen 3-10 Tage zur Bearbeitung für das Visum.
Russische Reisebüros, erledigen die Formalitäten innerhalb von einer Woche.
Es wird in der Ukraine nicht viel anders sein.
  
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Re: Marina <marinamel4@rambler.ru>
Antwort #19 - 16. Mai 2010 um 20:07
 
Hallo ich bekomme weiterhin Briefe von Marina.Den Quelltext kann ich mittlererweile auch schon auslesen.Sehe also wo die mail her kommt.Benutze dazu Quelltext analysis:http://headertool.apelord.com/headers

Der neueste Quelltext ist:

Spoiler:
From - Sun May 16 12:52:45 2010
X-Account-Key: account1
X-UIDL: 103014068
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-Mozilla-Keys:                                                                                 
Received: from [81.19.66.33] (helo=maild.rambler.ru)
     by mx33.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE 4.110 #4)
     id 1ODbLx-0003SN-00
     for xxxx; Sun, 16 May 2010 12:45:49 +0200
Received: from COMP35 (unknown [178.95.229.205])
     (Authenticated sender: marinamel4@rambler.ru)
     by maild.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE3F84415
     for <xxxx>; Sun, 16 May 2010 14:45:52 +0400 (MSD)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 13:46:05 +0300
From: Marina Meln <marinamel4@rambler.ru>
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Message-ID: <593159758.20100516134605@rambler.ru>
To: =?iso-8859-15?Q?xxxxx>
Subject: from Marina
In-Reply-To: <4BEEA815.1070801@web.de>
References: <4BEEA815.1070801@web.de>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Return-Path: marinamel4@rambler.ru
From - Sun May 16 12:52:45 2010
X-Account-Key: account1
X-UIDL: 103014068
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-Mozilla-Keys:
Received: from [81.19.66.33] (helo=maild.rambler.ru)
by mx33.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE 4.110 #4)
id 1ODbLx-0003SN-00
for xxxx; Sun, 16 May 2010 12:45:49 +0200
Received: from COMP35 (unknown [178.95.229.205])
(Authenticated sender: marinamel4@rambler.ru)
by maild.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE3F84415
for ; Sun, 16 May 2010 14:45:52 +0400 (MSD)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 13:46:05 +0300
From: Marina Meln
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Message-ID: <593159758.20100516134605@rambler.ru>
To: =?iso-8859-15?Q?xxxx=
Subject: from Marina
In-Reply-To: <4BEEA815.1070801@web.de>
References: <4BEEA815.1070801@web.de>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Return-Path: marinamel4@rambler.ru 


Ähnlich euerem Programm, gehe ich dann aber auf Whois
bekomme ich folgendes angezeigt:

Code
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WHOIS - 178.95.229.205

Information related to '178.92.0.0 - 178.95.255.255'

inetnum:        178.92.0.0 - 178.95.255.255
netname:        UA-UKRTELECOM-20091215
country:        UA
                01030 Kyiv
                Ukraine

 


Kann mir jemand sagen was die ganzen ripes  zu
sagen haben. Das wäre nett.
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Re: Marina <marinamel4@rambler.ru>
Antwort #20 - 17. Mai 2010 um 10:44
 
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die Rips brauchst Du nicht mitposten.
Wichtig ist wo die Mail eingeliefert wurde, ob es VPN oder eine Proxy-Einlieferung war und das die IP enthalten ist. 

Deine Auflösung war richtig. Ich habe sie auf die erforderlichen Daten reduziert und in code eingefasst.

noch ein kleiner Tpp
bei 

http://cqcounter.com/whois/

immer nochmal die IP prüfen, der Anbieter ist sehr genau und zuverlässig
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