Oh,der Scammer sieht die Kohle schwinden! kriegt wohl so schnell keinen Pass gebastelt!?   Kann man vergessen, Passkopie sowie neue Fotos gibt es von dem keine mehr.(Wahrscheinlich ist der Fundus erschöpft)? Ich denke wir beenden das hier, denn mir der Frage nach dem Pass , hat der was gemerkt wohl? Die klare Geldforderung reicht zum an die frische Luft setzen.

Hello again my dear XXXX,

My dear I have read your letter and I write at once you the answer.
What do you do today? You have a rest today? Tell me as you work! I
mean you worked yesterday in a night shift and before in the
afternoon. What your schedule? You have good rest? You well sleep? You
well eat? You should care of you till I come to you.

My dear unfortunately I cannot do and send scan copy of pages my
passport. Why? IN the first after disintegration USSR has begun mass a
deceit of people by means of banks. Bad people stole passports of
usual people, and do copies of some main pages. And from the help of
these copies took the big sums of money from banks, various loans and
credits. As a result bad people disappeared, and people on which these
credits it took necessary to return money in bank. After that have
entered the law about "passports and banks". Now we cannot do scan a
copy of any pages of our documents. And the more so I cannot send any
documents. I can be punished. because in Russia still as in USSR.
Whether each citizen of Russia watch and in the first check it
observes the law on passports. I can be punished! How? There are
various cases when bad people force good people to give their
passports to do any criminal. In our law, punishment for the help to
gangsters is provided. That is if my passport is stolen or pages from
the passport will be used somewhere I can prove that those pages have
been stolen. But if they learn that I have independently made copies
of my pages of the passport I will be punished. Oh I hope I have
explained it so that you have understood. And as my dear the
government of your country watches each step. And if they learn that
you sent money for me they quickly learn, that you sent money for my
trip. And my visa will be cancelled. You remember I to you spoke about
it??

You can bring some other documents in Money Gram that they could you
will make sure that the good person and your money it is your money
and it not dirty money. I have learnt that it is necessary to bring
some documents that all was successful. Try to do it. Money Gram it is
cheaper and better than Western Union.

And in general. My dear I think that they ask much. I think that all
will be successful. When you will come in Money gramme both bring
documents and will speak at once that you will send money for your
relative on wedding. I think that they will ask nothing and they will
allow to send money at once.

I will be online.

Kiss on your lips.
Marina XXXX



Zitat:


Diesmal wieder über Region Saratov(GUS) Stadt:Volsk

IP:	78.29.70.31
Decimal:	1310541343
Hostname:	pppoe-78-29-70-31.san.ru
ISP:	OJSC Rostelecom
Organization:	Network of Saratov branch of OJSC Volgatelecom
Services:	None detected
Assignment:	Static IP
Country:	Russian Federation ru flag
State/Region:	Saratov
City:	Volsk 

@ Scam-judge

Dann schreib ihr einmal von dem deutschen Geldwäschegesetz, an dass sich moneygram genauso halten muss, wie Western Union, wenn sie sich nicht strafbar machen wollen. Dann hättest Du bei der russischen Botschaft in Berlin angefragt und die hätten Dir die Auskunft gegeben, dass es keinerlei Einschränkung bei dem Kopieren von Pässen geben würde, da sie letztlich auch als Nachweis der Echtheit der Person dienen würden. Daher könne sie problemlos eine Passkopie senden, damit Du schnell das Geld überweisen kannst.

Uli schrieb on 27. August 2013 um 22:58:


@ Uli

Hatte ich doch bereits gemacht ! Deshalb eiert Vlad jetzt so rum ,weil er genau weiß das es Unsinn ist. Hatte doch schon indirekt geschrieben, das es sonst auch immer ohne klappt mit der Kohle!  

Zitat:


PS:Und ohne passendes Passfoto (hatte wohl nur diese paar Fotos von der Person die uns vorliegen) kann er keinen Pass faken. Das weiß er genau! Kohle ade ..Schade für Vlad !

Uli schrieb on 27. August 2013 um 23:00:


@ Uli

Ist ja ok ! Understand ! Hab's noch mal probiert Heute , mit sämtlichen Tricks und Finessen , die man so als Scamhunter einsetzen kann. Denk zwar No Chance , aber mal abwarten.  

Liest Vlad schon mit? Also wenn ich :flytoheaven@rambler.ru google , dann kommt noch nichts und bei den Fotos such nicht !? 

So, lieber @ Uli ich habe wirklich sämtliche Register gezogen um an den Pass zu kommen ,sogar tatsächlich bei der Russischen Botschaft angerufen und ihr die Tel-Nummer der Frau Petrova mitgeteilt (hat er natürlich nicht angerufen !). Aber wie schon befürchtet , weiß der ,das man den Pass nicht benötigt um Geld zu senden ! Der vertraut mir (zu Recht) nicht ... und wir ihm natürlich auch nicht !!! Aber ich glaube, ich schicke "ES" nochmal vergeblich zur Bank !   Der hat im letzten Brief mehr oder weniger mit mir Schluss gemacht !  :'  Solch eine Mühe hat sich noch nie ein Scammer mit mir gemacht !!!

PS: Hatte jetzt keine Lust ne PN zu schreiben ! Lösche meinen Kommentar bezüglich unserer Arbeitsweise vielleicht besser!? Die müssen nicht alles wissen, wie wir arbeiten und was wir alles wissen !

Letzer Brief :

Hello again XXXXX,

Thanks for your wonderful letter. Maybe we have not understood each other. I did not want annoyed you. You have misunderstood. I only worried. I wanted to solve everything, that come to you. I was in shock of that Western Union wants. Only after your perusal last the letter I have understood that you really worked yesterday as the day before yesterday. I have not understood that you told it. I do not know in what days you work day and night and consequently I ask you. Now I know that you worked yesterday and the day before yesterday at night. Today too??

My dear you understand as laws the European Union for such people as I work? I receive a tourist visa. They check all thing. They will check where there is a hotel in which I will be in Germany. They will watch I will go to what city. And they will check the statistican of references from German men who ask some question about some Russian woman or how she can come to Germany. You did not tell my name. But all can be traced. They can understand that I go to a city to you! They will understand that I break the law. because I visit your country as the tourist having a tourist visa. I want to look at sights and to learn culture of your country. This only thing that is resolved by my visa. To arrive to the man, the visa is necessary other type! But I go on a tourist visa. You understand what i mean? My visa can be cancelled because you learn about woman! they will check the statistican of visitings of yours a city by Russian of the woman! It will be a question of those women which have received the visa very much recently. It is dangerous! I know that I do also I know that it is necessary to do to receive the visa and come to you without problems! You should trust to me! 

My dear those people laughed? They live in Russia? NO! They do not know laws of Russia. All it is supervised here! Some people risk, I do copies of passports and then receive penalties and interdictions. You do not know it anybody to you will not tell it. If you lived here you were knew that it is truth. I am afraid that the police can trace it! It is really terrible. I will not risk my free. You should understand me. 

As after your perusal the letter - I have gone in Money Gram and Western Union. At first I have visited Western Union. My dear I have learnt that in Germany it is not necessary to have passport copies to send money in Russia. I have started to argue with them, but they have told that it is truth. Western Union people's keep spoke to send money it is not necessary to have a copy of my passport. It is strange! In Money gramme have told the same. And in Money Gram have told that you can go to other office Money Gram, to other city and can send money, having necessary documents. You work at large factory and they will not check your documents. They know that you the fair man. Also will approve money transfer. 

I think that maybe you do not trust to me? Because you spoke about it before and now you are afraid to push away me and consequently ask my passport. But you should understand that I will not send a passport copy. Because it is a lie that it is necessary to have copies of the passport for money transfer. 

I have decided that tomorrow I will go to search the second and maybe the third work. I want to save up money independently and come to you. If will carry that I come to you in Jule 2014. For now I can come to the man which understands that I risk and does not trust in me.

If this letter brings a pain in your heart you should know that I speak to you truth. 

Kiss from Marina Müller.

Zitat:

Die Wahrheit ??? 



Diesmal neue IP und tatsächlich aus Saratov (GUS). Aber ich denke das dieser Scammer anhand der Tel-Nummer aus Moskau kommt !?

IP:	78.29.83.7
Decimal:	1310544647
Hostname:	pppoe-78-29-83-7.san.ru
ISP:	OJSC Rostelecom
Organization:	Network of Saratov branch of OJSC Volgatelecom
Services:	None detected
Assignment:	Static IP
Country:	Russian Federation ru flag
State/Region:	Saratov
City:	Saratov
 

Ich möchte an dieser Stelle mal die gute Arbeit von euch und besonders von "scam judge" erwähnen.. grosses Lob für die Hartnäckigkeit

Uli schrieb on 29. August 2013 um 10:48:

@ Uli

Meinst Du ernsthaft das ich noch weiter schreiben soll??? Pass und neue Fotos werden wir sicher nicht mehr bekommen von diesem Scammer.
Bringt uns die weitere Kommunikation noch was ???