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Elena <nocnaypantera@yahoo.com> <elena.aseeva.31@yahoo.com>
04. September 2009 um 18:42
 
Hier hab ich mal was richtig hübsches gefunden:

The my dear friend, what with you? Why you to me do not write? I am not interesting to you? Then and write!!!! If at you already someone is, we can become simple friends. I hope while only for your friendship. In the further something can and greater. 
Yours Elena

Da wird einem doch gleich der Mund wässerig und die Geldbörse geht auf! Laut lachend 

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Re: Elena <nocnaypantera@yahoo.com> <elena.aseeva.31@yahoo.com>
Antwort #1 - 04. September 2009 um 18:46
 
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Re: Elena <nocnaypantera@yahoo.com> <elena.aseeva.31@yahoo.com>
Antwort #2 - 09. September 2009 um 09:19
 
Meine Traumfrau Nr. 2 meldet sich wieder. Na dann schaun wir mal ...

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Das war schon mal der Header

Dann gucken wir mal wo es herkommt.

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Hopplala, aus England! Aber mein Schatz wohnt doch in St. Petersburg????? hä?

Na ja, vielleicht ist sie ja auf Urlaub. Will ich mir doch mal ihre mail durchlesen:

Re: What is the problem with you??????‏
Von:  Elena (nocnaypantera@yahoo.com)  
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. September 2009 09:03:15 
An:  Hans Olaf Esser (hansolafesser@aol.de) 


The my dear prince, what with you? 
Why you to me do not write? I am not interesting to you? 
Then and write!!!! If at you already someone is, we can become simple friends. I hope while only for your friendship. 
In the further something can and greater. 

Yours Elena 
  

Aber wenigstens hat sie mir wieder ein schönes Bild geschickt. Damit kann ich jetzt "fünf gegen Willi, der Verlierer kotzt" spielen. Diesen optischen Genuß will ich euch natürlich nicht vorenthalten:
 

 

Wie der aufmerksame Leser erkennt war das eine Antwort auf eine Mail von mir. Ich hatte sie unter anderem gefragt, warum sie in manchen briefen englisch kann und in anderen nicht und warum sie nicht auf Fragen und Anmerkungen in meinen Briefen antwortet. 
Anscheinend kann sie das immer noch nicht ... Griesgrämig


Was ich inzwischen auch von Euch gelernt habe ist, dass man im Internet suchen kann, ob das Bild schon mal anderweitig verwendet wurde. Das will ich jetzt auch einmal machen:

Donnerwetter. Die Dame ist noch Jungfrau (zumindest laut tinyeye.de). Sollte ich mich so geirrt haben?
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Re: Elena <nocnaypantera@yahoo.com> <elena.aseeva.31@yahoo.com>
Antwort #3 - 09. September 2009 um 09:21
 
p.s.: hansolafesser@aol.com ist natürlich meine mail extra für spam Zwinkernd
  
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Re: Elena <nocnaypantera@yahoo.com> <elena.aseeva.31@yahoo.com>
Antwort #4 - 28. September 2009 um 18:52
 
Hello Hans

I have already seen that young lady before.. And I recieved some letters from "her". Same pictures were attached and I recognice the same text.
I searched for the email-adress, "she" used.. And boom.. there it was.. 
I knew from the beginning, that "she" was a scammer.. What would a pretty young girl like her do with an old guy like me.. I'm in my fifties..  Zwinkernd
I wonder if you have seen these pictures here of her... 



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Antwort #5 - 28. September 2009 um 18:55
 
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Re: Elena <nocnaypantera@yahoo.com> <elena.aseeva.31@yahoo.com>
Antwort #6 - 28. September 2009 um 20:44
 
The photograph seems to be taken in the US, maybe Arizona or Southern California.

We have this passport with another number:
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Re: Elena <nocnaypantera@yahoo.com> <elena.aseeva.31@yahoo.com>
Antwort #7 - 08. Oktober 2009 um 13:35
 
Hallo, hatte auch Mail - Kontakt mit nocnaypantera, allerdings durchaus persönlicher, wobei mir mehrere Dinge auffielen:
 
Das Englisch war grauenvoll, aber verständlich, z.T. mit sicher beabsichtigten Doppeldeutigkeiten , z.B. sie sei eine gute 'Mistress' was im Englischen bzw. wenn man zurückübersetzt im zugrundeliegenden Russisch alles von Hausfrau, Meisterin bis zur 'Frau für gewisse Stunden' bedeutet. (worauf manche der Bilder schliessen lassen, v.a # 5.1) Oder die Nationalspeise 'Pelmenis', man lasse da spasseshalber nur ein paar Buchstaben weg...

Teilweise wurden die Fragen in meinen Mails sehr persönlich und durchaus im Sinne eines echten Flirts beantwortet (also vermutlich nicht nur mit vorgefertigten Textbausteinen) mit dezidierten Hobbies, Interessen, Gefühlslagen, Familie etc.. Würde mich mal interessieren, wie as bei Euch war?     Durchgedreht 

Einmal hatte ich sogar kurzen spontanen Mail - Kontakt nachdem ich sofort auf ihr Mail antwortete, der war aber eher enttäuschen nach ihrem vorangegangenem 'heissen' Mail mit Liebesbekundungen.

Irgendwie schien dem ganzen eine Dramatik mit zunehmender Intensität zugrundezuliegen, wie psychologisch geschult, was im Endeffekt auf sich steigernde Liebesbekundungen (auf meine durchaus ernstgemeinten Komplimente hinsichtlich ihres schönen Gesichts und Haare!) und den obligatorischen Wunsch für mehrere Wochen nach D. zu reisen hinauslief...

zunächst ging alles ganz harmlos und unverbindlich los, plötzlich jedoch mit zunehmender Bestimmtheit und schliesslich, nach etwa 7 Mails und 2 - 3 Wochen dem Anliegen, das Geld für Flug, Papiere sowie Agenturleistungen unbedingt zu benötigen.

Stutzig machte mich neben ihrer angeblichen Option, jederzeit von ihrem vermeintlichen Job als Managerin im Supermarkt Urlaub nehmen zu können  v.a. die Hartnäckigkeit, nach Geld zu fragen, obwohl ich ich ihr mitteilte, keines übrigzuhaben (was tatsächlich zutrifft) sowie das Nichteingehen auf alternative Möglichkeiten wie Busfahrt bzw. Aufschieben auf nächstes Jahr.  Auch sehr neugierig machte mich die Adresse ihres Apartrments in einer sehr exponierten Lage, der bekanntesten Strasse Russlands, den Nevsky Prospekt  in St. Petersburg 

[ http://www.nevsky-prospekt.com/photos/photosnorthside.html ]  N° 28

sowie die Tatsache, angeblich das Handy verloren zu haben... für Frauen auf der ganzen Welt ein untragbarer Zustand, der bestimmt sofort behoben würde, vor allem anderen !?!
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Insgesamt hat die Dame (oder Person) das Ganze fast bis zum Schluss jedoch recht überzeugend und durchaus dramaturgisch rübergebracht, es hat mich richtig angekratzt und Zweifel an meinen Zweifeln aufkommen lassen (Schönheit ist also doch eine starke Waffe!, v.a in Verbindung mit vermeintlichen Gefühlen)

Vermutlich werden somit einige Herren darauf eingegangen sein. 

Die Daten auf dem Reisepass sid übrigens die gleichen, die ich auch so auch von ihr, allerdings nur informell beim 2. Mail bei der Frage nach ihrem Geburtstag und -ort so erfuhr, das könnte also durchaus stimmen.

Schade dass sich so schöne Frauen für so etwas hergeben. 
Ich vermute, dass sie tatsächlich so wie in den Mails und auf dem Ausweis  existiert,  aber evt. im Rotlichtgewerbe bzw. als besseres Callgirl in London oder sonstwo auf der Welt arbeitet, wo es reiche Russen gibt (die buchen angeblich ständig solche hübschen Mädels für ihre Parties) , da die Mails ja offensichtlich von dort kommen. Möglicherweise sucht sie, wenn ihr Kapital (Schönheit) dahingeht sogar irgendwann einen richtigen Mann, wer weiss... zumindest waren ihre Mails sehr persönlich und was man im Englischen 'touching' nennt, als nicht nur seicht, deshablb ging es mir trotz aller Zweifel schon nach...

Mich würden wie gesagt Eure Erfahrungen dazu interessieren.


Bei einem Autoverkauf auf AutoScout 24 hatte ich übrigens auch eine sehr zweifelhafte Anfrage aus England....
Nachdem das Investmentbanking nicht mehr so läuft, entdecken die jetzt wohl neue Betätigungsfelder???
Angeblich waren da ja auch viele Groupies um die Jungmillionäre herum versammelt und jetzt suchen die wohl neue Geldquellen... 

...

Das Ganze 'nocnaypantera' - issue hat sich jedoch erledigt, da der Mailaccount offenbar nicht mehr existiert.

weil sie so schön war, nochmals mein Lieblingsphoto von ihr als Anhang...  ist doch zum Dahinschmelzen

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Antwort #8 - 08. Oktober 2009 um 15:19
 
@ shogun

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Bitte poste die Mails mit Header falls Du sie per E-Mail bekommen hast, sonst poste einfach nur die Mail und schreibe dazu wo Du sie bekommen hast
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Antwort #9 - 09. Oktober 2009 um 06:24
 
Betreff:       hi dear friend
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Hi  friend!!!!!!!!!

If you do not understand English language that you without problems can translate my letters on the native language in online the translator. Here: http://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=en#

I - Elena.

I waited your letter and is very glad, that you have responded!

I never had the correspondence before with the person from other country, and it seems to me very interestingly.

So, it - is a little about me. 

To me of 31 years. I am the only thing. My growth of 170 sm and weight of 50 kg.

I was never married, and I have no children, but very much I love them!

I bear long direct dark hair and I have gray-green eyes.

To describe Itself not so it is usual for me, but you can see me better in my photos!Smiley 

I live in the city of St.-Petersburg and I enjoy a life. I think, what you have heard about this city? St.-Petersburg one of the most beautiful cities of Russia. Possibly even it is more beautiful than Moscow!))) many tourists visit this city, and I shall be very surprised, if you did not hear about it. Possibly you ask, why I wish to have the correspondence to you. The answer is very simple. I have decided to get acquainted with the person from other country and can even communicate in a reality. Can we become the best friends or even lovers:) I plan to receive month of rest from work in August, and I wish to spend this time in your country as the tourist. I never was abroad, and it will be my first travel! I wish to get acquainted with the good person to become friends, and is possible it is more.))) It is my small secret, but I during long time dream to move, to live to your country and to build a new life in the future.

I have studied English language in institute, and I can write and speak almost well. I would like to call for you, but to mine to misfortune I have lost phone and still have not bought new.

If you have really become interested in me, the following message I shall write more about me to direct and my life. I hope, that you will love my photos:) 

I with impatience shall wait your new letter!



Care



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Hello P...!



How are you?

I waited your letter very much!

Today good weather and at me excellent mood!

I am very glad to hear all new from you! It is really interesting!

I wish to write more about myself, that you could present what I in life.))))

I was born in the city Pskov on Jule, 26th 1978. I am Leo on a sign on the zodiac  and you? I was fun and good child. My parents have presented me many caress and love,  because I was their only child.

My parents still live in Pskov and they pensioners. I visit them about two times a month.  They have grown up me the good person and have me formation. When I have left school, have  gone to St.-Petersburg to study in institute and have received economic education. 

Now I live one in St.-Petersburg in an my apartment. I work in the big supermarket as the  manager. It is interesting work and I like it very much. I responsible for deliveries of  the goods and products and me no time to miss.)))

During free time from work I am engaged in aerobics and fitness. It is the important part  of my life, because I have already got used to be beautiful and harmonous.

It really brings a lot of pleasure! In usually evening I waste time with friends. It is  impossible to sit at home in the summer! In Petersburg a lot of beautiful places, where it  is possible to walk. My the most favourite place is the Central recreation park. We often  walk there.

We go in a pizzeria, cafe or cinema. I love it very much! Last time we were on the Glacial  age 3 in 3D! It`s very much funy! You looked it? We often go to cinema and eat pop corn  and perfectly waste time together! Most of all I like to look a comedy and films about  love!) My favorite actor - Bred Pit.

Unfortunately warm solar weather happens not long, but always it is possible to think up  something for entertainment. I driving on a bicycle and roller skates. In the winter in  Russia happens a lot of snow.))) I love winter too, because it is possible to skate on an  ice, snow board and skis from mountains. It is the real extreme!!!!!

But most of all I love spring, because all nature wakes up and it is very beautiful! I  love the nature very much! We often leave with friends for city on lake or on a summer  residence for rest. I very much love animals, but yet I have no any. I had a parrot name  Robinzon, but it has left me. ((((( I dream of a dog. You love dogs?

I am the good mistress. My friends often come to me on a visit! I like to prepare very  much. It can be a borshch under the recipe of mum or a sweet pie with apples. I can brag,  that I prepare and eat almost all, but it does not prevent to have a good body, because I  constantly burn down calories. I do not smoke a cigarette. Sometimes I can drink a little  some good wine, but I do not take a big interest in it.

I would like to hear all about you! It is very interesting to me!

I really plan to travel to your country for three weeks, but in first I would like to  learn you better. I wish to travel one as the tourist for rest. Now I have no exact plans,  but I shall necessarily inform you, when all I learn.

I am very glad, that my photos have made upon you good impression!))) 

I shall be glad to see your new photos too.

I wish you good day!



Yours friend Elena
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Hello my friend P...!



Your new letter make my day!

Each new letter, which we write, as our meeting for me!)))) Certainly in a real life  is much more interesting, but I am very glad to read and learn all new about you!

Unfortunately I not always can answer quickly. My computer has broken from short circuit and I am forced to use the Internet on work, when there is a free time.

Today very good day and at me excellent mood.

How there is your day?

I very cheerful, dreamer and romantic women! Probably it sounds strange, but it is valid so. I always draw beautiful imaginations in the head and I wish to take from this life all best. I am assured, that each person is created to be happy and to enjoy a life. Actually the life is very short and it is impossible to spend it all for nothing. I am not so love the big city. People constantly hasten somewhere and do not notice as their life simply pass.

All my youth has passed in Pskov in the big wooden house of my parents. I very much love this time. My father has planted a garden, when I was small and now there it is very beautiful! My mum very much loves flowers and with pleasure looks after a garden. I most of all love red roses, but mum loves tulips. I like to travel very much, but never was abroad. Travel to your country will be improbable opening for me and I am assured, that you will show me all the most beautiful and interesting places.

The last summer I went to have a rest in Sochi with friends on the Black sea. It was pleasant to me very much. Sochi very known city in the south Russia, because there will pass Olympic Games 2014. I am assured, that you heard about it? I never saw ocean! It is my small dream.))))))

I often represent as I have sunburn on white sand and on blue waves fly the seagull. 

Therefore blue my favourite color. Still it is similar to color of my eyes. What color you love more?

I like to listen music very much! When I go for work to the underground usually listen radio. In an exercise room I listen dancing music or something fun! When I wish to relax, I include Scorpions, Queen, Sting, Elton John, Brian Adams and other excellent singer. When I have a free time I with pleasure read. Unfortunately now not always there is an opportunity.))) I love very much fantasi and I have all books Tolkien.

You are probably surprised, why I still single?

I had relations earlier, but it has ended more than two years ago.

This history had a sad me end and I am not so wish to recollect it.

I always dreamed of the real happiness, but in replacements the insult and disappointment has received.

But I am not looking at it and again lives and open for something new. The life in Russia is not so good and I wish to build new serious relations in yours country. At me it is a lot of plans, but in first I would like to waste time my holiday, that to see all my eyes! I shall be happy, if I shall spend this time with good man.)))) I trust, that it will be really surprising travel.

It seems to me that in relations the main thing to be able to trust, understand, be fair, always to support and to bear the responsibility each other. Someone has told, that it is impossible to be lovers, if to not be the real friends. I am assured that it is really so!

I search only for something serious. I wish to be unique, to love and be favourite.

I would like to hear your sight about it? It is very interesting for me. For today should finish, but I shall wait very much your new letter!



I wish you good day!



Yours friend Elena
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Hello my sweet friend P...  !

I always wait the new letter from you! At you very beautiful country. I travelled to Sochi by train. These are 2 day of a way. 

You give me a lot of positive energy and emotions! 

You not only the beautiful and interesting person, but also the good friend for me!

I could not present myself, that to write letters each other very interestingly, but now I  cannot without it!)))))))

Today bad weather and I am a little tired on work.

My mood became even better, when I have read your letter! Your letters always make a smile  on my face!

How are your day??

I very much would like to learn more about your city. All is interesting to me! Where do  you live, what you do every day and how you spend weekends? Usually in weekends I go to  friends.

I can is simple go on a visit to one of my girlfriends to speak or drink tea. Or we can  gather big the company and go to cinema or theatre. It very interestingly and fun!  Sometimes I leave to parents for Pskov, therefore I ask you to not worry, if I suddenly  shall not write to you the letter in weekends.

As soon as I return, at once shall answer your mail.

What interesting places I could visit in your city? You have rest or plans for next month?  I would like to waste time my rest from work with you. I would like to learn better you  and tell to you about myself more, when we shall be together. It will be improbable  experience for us. But it is possible, that you will be borrowed by work, and I shall be  in loneliness. I very much hope, that you will find time, that we could spend it together.  We shall to plan well all, because I yet have not received holiday from work and we have  time.

My friends have informed, that many tourists visit your country. Among these tourists many  Russian people. It is valid so?

My kind friend you like to cook food? What your favourite dish?

I very much like to waste time on kitchen! I would like to prepare for you tasty, when we  shall be together! Most likely it will be any traditionally Russian dish. Probably borshch  or pel'menis!))))) you ate sometime pel'menis? This one of the most favourite dishes for  russian. Pel'menis it is a mincemeat mixed with an onions and wrapped up in a thin dough  and welded in special a broth. You would like to taste it?

Yesterday we walked with girlfriends in park and told each other all news

We have lead very vigorously and fun time together, but I thought of you and missed a  little! Around passed many men, but I had no interest to them. I do not know why, possibly  only you attention is necessary for me.))))

My girlfriends notice changes in me! Smiley They have told, that I became very cheerful and  joyful. I have told him, that have got acquainted with you through the Internet, and we  became good friends.

They have been very surprised and set to me one thousand questions.)))) I have told all of  them and they are very glad for us!.

My girlfriends asked to transfer to you big Hello!

I shall wait your new letter and to miss you a little!))))))))

Yours friend Elena
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My sweet friend P...!

How are you my dear?

P...  , I very much missed your attention!
I have been a little borrowed and could not check up my mail in any way. But I knew, that your letter waits for me!
Yes, I was not mistaken! Here it!!!! Smiley 
When I check my mail my temperature grows, because I very much worry! It similarly to opening a box with a gift Smiley, never you know what inside and admiration, when it is open! Your letters it is valid as a gift for me!
The new message from you, fills my day with pleasure!
It is really surprising, but when I read your letter my eyes light! To me it is very pleasant, that my letters and photos bring pleasure to you too!
What do you do today?
Today I have excellent mood!
Weather very good and I wish to finish work more likely.
Sometimes it seems to me, that we already during long time know each other, because you became very close person for me! I feel very comfortably with you!
Each new letter reduces distance between us, and we investigate each other better.
My kind friend, what clothes you love most of all? I not the admirer of fashionable brands and expensive clothes. For me the main thing, that the clothes were beautiful and convenient. My friends speak that I look equally well and in jeans with a sweater and in an evening dress! I have some sports suits in which I go in for fitnes.
When weather warm it can be an light dress or sundress with shorts. I love very evening dresses and shoes on high a heel. I promise to show you it, when you will invite me to a supper in any beautiful place of your city! Smiley 
After acquaintance to you I have strongly changed!
Earlier I was cheerful and positive, but now I feel especially!
You became the best friend for me and you is constantly necessary for me of attention!
I wish to accelerate time and more likely to travel to your country.
Unfortunately I should wait, when I shall receive my holiday from work, but if I would have wings, we already were together!))))))
I often think of you! You are very interesting to represent what you do to the certain moment in other part of the ground.
You think of me sometimes? I can have holiday from work only once in a year and would like that this time has left the big print in my memory.
I plan to have a rest in the end of this month or in the beginning of the following. I would like to see your city and certainly it is better to learn you!
Now we have only our letters, but very soon we can enjoy a society the friend the friend.
Your letters mean much for me now, because only so I can learn more about you and reduce expectation of our meeting.
I feel excellently, when I read your new letter! It is valid pleasure for me!
Have a good day!

Bye, bye, bye!!!!

Yours Russian Elena
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