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Re: Lizabelta / Liza <lizabelta71@hotmail.com> <lizonkaa@gmail.com>
Antwort #15 - 11. Februar 2009 um 11:37
 
Hier ein schöner Beitrag mit schönem Bild, bitte nicht schwach werden heute morgen:

Was mir so auffiel sind viele Hobby und jetzt im ersten Mail schon zu wenig Geld.


Hello, xxx, happy to know you:)
I am really happy and at the same time I am a little scarred. You know
I don't know how it is about you, but for me it is the firs try. I
don't know how it works but I heard a lot about the happy meeting
through the Internet.
I am very simple girl, I am kind, loving, caring and HONEST. That is
what I am looking in my future Partner. You know I am not a teenager,
I am the woman, I have the bad experience behind me. I know what I
want and I am not here just for fun. I don't need this.
I appeared here because I can't find the right man here. They are rude,
selfish. They look at you as at the doll. But I am not. I want to find
the man who will see my inner beauty, my soul, my personality.
I want to create the good and happy family. I believe that all
relations can be based on love, honesty, trust, loyalty,mutual
understanding. What are your thoughts about this?
Well, I want to start to tell you a little more about me. I will try
to share the basic information about me to give you a little
impression about me.
I live in the small town which is called Krasnodon. I will be very
happy to tell you more about my small town if you want to know this.
By the way as far as you know I am Ukrainian and I live in Ukraine.
I am 29 years old. I was born on January,25.  I am Aquarius.
I was married, I am divorced now. I don't have any kids. But I am
dreaming about this.
I work as the decorator. I prepared the decoration for the parties
everywhere. You know, I like my job but it is really so difficult to
realize yourself in my small town. I don't want to complain about my
bad life, but my salary is far from the perfect!
I have many friends, I have many hobbies. I try to experience
everything in my life as I think it is too short and you must try to
do everything (except bad things) you can.
I will be very happy to share all this with my beloved person as it is
very difficult to do this myself.
I hope you have the general picture about me. It is very difficult to
write all I want in one letter. I am open for the communication. I
attach photos, I hope you will like them.
Best regards, Liza.
PS: You know, I think it will be great if you send me the photo too. 



ICH FRAGE SIE MAL WO SIE DIE SCHöNEN OHRRINGE HER HAT.
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Re: Lizabelta / Liza <lizabelta71@hotmail.com> <lizonkaa@gmail.com>
Antwort #16 - 12. Februar 2009 um 14:53
 
Alles neu macht der Mai, oder der 12. Februar.

Hier das neuste Mail, aber mit einer etwas veränderten Absenderzeile:


Hello again xxx,
I am so happy and excited to communicate with you in this way. You
know it is really so interesting to look how it works and where it can
lead us. I hope it will lead us to something amazing, don't you think
so?
Oh I want to tell so much about me but I lose in all these thoughts
and words. It is very difficult to concentrate, you know I want to
excuse beforehand perhaps I will miss something in your letter and that
is not because I didn't want to answer or I read your letter carefully
that is why I just again lose that start:)
Well as I wrote you I live in a small town but I studied in Luhansk in
the institute of Culture and Art. I studied there for five years for
the profession as the decorator. I work as the decorator. Perhaps you
wonder what I do here in my small town. Well, thanks to God I found
the job. I did a lot of decoration for school and kindergartens
holidays, I work for the state organization. I am paid not a very good
salary, but it is the only job I could find in this town.
I live with my parents as I wrote you. I have mother, father and a
brother. I will try to attach the photo with them.
My brother is younger than me for three years. He works in the plant.
My father and mother are teachers. My mother (Lyuba) is the teacher of
Russian language and literature and my father (Vanya) is the teacher
of Maths. My brother's name is Kiril.
I love my family. After the divorce I live with them. They helped me a
lot at that difficult time. It was horrible to overcome that time. But
I believe that only because of such love and support my parents gave
me I overcame that pain so quickly. I thought that I wouldn't be able
to wake up happy and to be happy any more. I thought that all men
were so bad and I would never find the honest and reliable man. I WAS
WRONG, I know this. I know that HE is very far from me, but I will
find him and I will be very happy to give him my love, my care my
heart, all of me and I hope he will except me as I am.
I have two dogs, did I write this?? I love animals. I have two dogs
and we can have have them, as we live in our own house. It is very
small.  But still we have the little garden. My dogs' names are Lastik
and Shustik. They are boys. You know I love animals, all animals. When
I was a kid I dreamt to be the veterinarian:))
I love reading, I love riding, I love dancing. I love taking photos. I
will tell you all this more in my next letter. I will share more about
my work and my hobbies and more what want you to know. ok???
Waiting for your next letter,
Liza.

 
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Re: Lizabelta / Liza <lizabelta71@hotmail.com> <lizonkaa@gmail.com>
Antwort #17 - 13. Februar 2009 um 12:49
 
Extra für Ole, frische Ohrenbilder aus Bimboland

Hello my dear xxx,
I am so happy to receive your reply again. I was wondering all this
time if you write me back and when I saw your letter I was very happy.
I am wondering how you are today. How is your day and work?
I have the good day. I enjoy my work and it gives me a lot of
pleasure. I start work at eight o'clock sometimes till to seven
sometimes even till to eight. My work consists of many functions. I
draw the projects for the future decoration order to imagine the new
decorating. You know when I were at the institute we learnt a lot of
computer programs and how the computer can help you. Now, I don't have
it at my work place and I do everything by my own hands and my imagination.
It takes a lot of time and it is more difficult than use the computer.
I believe in the better and I hope that one day I will be able to make
all I have created in my thoughts in real life. I think my work is
very interesting. To be honest I have never thought that I would be a
decorator.
Did I write you that I was a model? Yes, I even went to the modeling
school but I left this when I start studied as my studies took a lot
of time. I didn't have the money to pay for the marks and I tried to
get all knowledge myself without any moneys. So, I was the model,
there are some photos left, I want to share them with you if you are
not against. I think that the work of model is very difficult and
exhausted. That is the other world with its horrible rules and laws.
Sometimes it is so duty and brutal. I am not such person; it is very
difficult for me. I was brought up with other values than those are in
that world. It is really difficult to overstep that bound. To be
honest I am dreaming about the family, I want to take care of this
family, to be the loving mother and wife, to create the wonderful
house where my husband wants to come after the difficult day. I want
to make such comfortable corner in this world where he can feel free
and relax and happy. That is my dream and I don't dream about
something like the life of the model.
I went to the dancing classes when I was a school girl. I danced for
almost six years. Then I left dancing classes for the modeling
classes. I love that; I was sleeping and seeing myself in that world
until I knew that whole truth of it.
What else I can tell you. I don't watch any sport, I jog every morning
and I think this helps me to keep myself in form. I don't take any
diets. I can eat everything I want. I can cook, I like cooking very
much. It seems to me that almost all girls like this, perhaps I am
wrong. I love fruits, I love all fruits. They are so delicious and
healthy. But I adore the strawberry with ice cream or just cream Smiley
Ok, I must run to work. I am sitting here for a long time.
I wish you to have the good day today.
Kisses, LIza.
PS: one photo is with my friends at the sea. Another one at home
of my friend. The photo in the swimming suit is me, when I was doing
modeling. 

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Re: Lizabelta / Liza <lizabelta71@hotmail.com> <lizonkaa@gmail.com>
Antwort #18 - 16. Februar 2009 um 13:36
 
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:12:53 +0200
From: lizonkaa@gmail.com

Hello my dear xxx,
thank you for the reply. I am so happy to be with you. Thank you very
much for your picture. Why did you send it to me?
I am dreaming about being loved, understood. I am strong person, I can
overcome any problems I have, I try to find the solution in the
difficult period of life. I believe that there is the solution for
sure for any problems we just must look at this problem from another
side. But I am the woman and I am weak in a certain way. Even the
strongest person need to have the partner in her life. I also need. I
know that it is very important to know that you will come home and you
will make the dinner and you will make for Your man at home. I want to
do this all for him because then it is easier, then the life gains in
importance. I was married two years,I thought that I met the love of
my whole life. I was blind with my love and I didn't want to notice
the evident sings and things. I was open, honest, I gave my heart and
I thought that I would receive the same from his side.
We lived happily one year. He was the sportsman. He was the boxer. He
was very good in that. He made success in his box and I tried to
support him as much as I could. We dated for four years, then we
decided to get married. We lived happily one year then next year was
the hell for me. I was living in the real hell. There were the
competition and he dreamt to win it. He made everything for that.
Everything was ok but he lost. I still don't know why. He didn't say
me anything. But it was not the end of the world. He could train and
he could try one again. But he was ruined by that result. He was
angry and he didn't want to listen to anyone, I couldn't do anything
to make him believe. He started to drink. I tried to understand that,
I tried to make him stop that. But he became unbearable he changed
very quickly, he became rude, closed and drunk. He stopped his
training, he stopped working. He stopped doing anything around the
house. I came home after work and he was lying drunk ion the sofa. He
didn't have money, I stopped giving him the money, because I knew he
would go and buy vodka. He started to sell the things from the flat.
One day I came home and there was not even the TV! All my saving, my
precious adornment was selling. Only the things which I was wearing
are left. I couldn't do anything, the doctors can't help me. One year
I was struggling with that, but one day when I came home and he didn't
have anything to sell he started to shout at me he demanded money. I
didn't have any money, he started to hit me, shout at me, I have never
heard such words!!!! I was so afraid, I was ready to give everything
but to make him leave me. Then he saw the ring, that ring he bought
me, he took it and left. I didn't see him for two days. I was happy as
I was so afraid, I was horrified, I didn't wait that from him.
Then I decided to get the divorce. It was the difficult and horrible
process. We sold the flat we have and all those money I paid for the
debt he made. He left this town and I was happy. I won't be able to
see him again.
Yes, my story is very long. Sorry, that I took so much time. I hope
that I didn't bore you with this. I know that everything is in my
hands now.
I stop here. I will wait for your reply impatiently.
Kisses, Liza.

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Re: Lizabelta / Liza <lizabelta71@hotmail.com> <lizonkaa@gmail.com>
Antwort #19 - 16. Februar 2009 um 19:50
 
Seitdem die bei Google inline mailen, scheinen die Mails aus der Ukraine zu kommen (Zeitzone +0200)!!!
@ Wolf

Kannst Du mal versuchen, den Quelltext der ganzen Mail sichtbar zu machen. Manchmal haben wir dann zum Schluss die Links der Fotos, sofern die Scammer diese direkt aus dem Internet gezogen haben!
  
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Antwort #20 - 17. Februar 2009 um 11:59
 
hello MY DEAR xxx,
THANK YOU FOR THE REPLY. how ARE YOU THERE?
I am happy that you understood my letter, my worries and my soul. It
is so important for me. I don't want to make guilty my ex, but
something was wrong. I don't want to remember those bad past days. They
are in the past and I know that I will have a lot of wonderful,
amazing days in my future. I so much want to dream about this with
you. Today I am going to meet my friend, you know I didn't tell to any
one about our correspondence. I will tell her, I think. I know she
will be very happy. We are the good friends and she is my best friend
after my mother! Her name is Kristina. She is a nice girl.
My parents know that I am looking for the man in the Internet. They
know that I put my profile and I am going to say them about you. I
believe that they will support me. I am so happy and excited that I
want to share this new feeling with everybody. But I don't want to do
this. There are a lot of bad people around here and they won't be
happy with me, they will be jealous.
I hope you are fine, thank you one more time.
kisses, Liza.

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Antwort #21 - 17. Februar 2009 um 11:59
 
@ Uli

schicke Dir mal die Mail als Weiterleitung ins admin fach
  
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Antwort #22 - 17. Februar 2009 um 16:42
 
Zitat:
@ Uli

schicke Dir mal die Mail als Weiterleitung ins admin fach

Fotos waren leider dynamisch eingebettet. Keine Infos!
  
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Re: Lizabelta / Liza <lizabelta71@hotmail.com> <lizonkaa@gmail.com>
Antwort #23 - 17. Februar 2009 um 16:52
 
Habe mir den Thread noch einmal angeschaut. Bei amicus hatte sie sich als lizabelta gemeldet, bei Wolf als lizonkaa.
@ Wolf

Kannst Du mal versuchen, sie unter lizabelta71@hotmail.com anzumailen? Bin gespannt, ob da ein kompletter Neuanfang eines Mailverkehrs kommen wird oder was auch immer sonst noch passiert. Vielleicht stecken da zwei Gruppen dahinter. Da wir ja wissen, dass es sich um Scam handelt, macht es auch nichts aus, wenn die es peilen, dass wir wissen, sie sind Scammer!
  
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Antwort #24 - 18. Februar 2009 um 12:48
 
Blubber, Blubber von heute:

Hello my dear Wolfgang,
thank you for the reply. Thank you for the wonderful letter, I am very
happy to be with you, thank you.
I am very happy that you are romantic person, I am so happy with
this . I believe that we will enjoy our time together for sure.
I thought about relocating for a long time. I live in my country, with
my family, friends and work. Yes, I love all these and I love my
relatives. My friends help me in everything. But I came to the
Internet because I don't have the right man close to me. I came here
to find him, that special man. Not just simple one, but special. And I
knew that I would need to go to live at his country. Now, I am writing
to you, I start like you very much. I think that I will be able to
live in your country, town. Because I will be with my man, who is
loving, caring, understanding. Do you know how it is difficult to wake
up each morning and realize that you are alone? It is very cold and
uncomfortable to be alone. I come home and I know that there is empty
there. There is no you there. But I want to wait you from the job, to
prepare dinner for you, to spend evenings with you watching TV. Do you
understand me?
I send you a lot of kisses, Liza. 

Keine neuen Fotos@ Uli

Auf meiner YAHOO Adresse ist bisher noch nicht angekommen

Wenn Ihr den Quelltext braucht kurz Bescheid, da m.e. keine Änderung zu der vorhergegehenden Mail

  
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Re: Lizabelta / Liza <lizabelta71@hotmail.com> <lizonkaa@gmail.com>
Antwort #25 - 19. Februar 2009 um 17:42
 
@ Uli

Uli schrieb on 17. Februar 2009 um 16:52:
lizabelta71@hotmail.com 


Leider keine Antwort bisher auf die yahoo Adresse, die Mail kam aber auch nicht zurück, also war wohl zustellbar.

Dafür heute ein neues Mail

Jetzt geht es los:


hello my dear Wolfgang,
thank you for the letter and for the photo. I like your photos.
My dear, I feel very close to you. I know that we should meet to feel
such feeling, but through the letters I was able to learn you, your
soul, your character. I come closer to you and I feel wonderful!I
believe that very soon we will be able to make our first kiss.
My dear I am very upset today! I came to write you the letter as
always, I was so excited before reading it. But the manager came to me
and she said that my payments for the translations are off and I need
to pay for the translations of our letters again.
I was shocked. I thought it would be enough till the next month. My
salary is not very soon. And I paid more this month for the bills. I
helped my parents with the taxes and this month my mum asked about the
help because the taxes were raised! I am in the difficult situation
now.
I adore your letters, I like our correspondence. I feel very special
feelings towards you. I believe that I am on the right way. I feel
that I am not wrong. You are that man I need and I need to be with
you. I can't stay without you now, right now, when our feelings are on
this stage and when I can be so happy with you.
My dear, I need your help to pay for the translations. I won't be able
to handle this myself now. I am so depressed that I ask you about this
but I know that without you I won't be able to be happy any more.
Your Liza.

Keine neuen Bilder, Quelltext unverändert
  
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Re: Lizabelta / Liza <lizabelta71@hotmail.com> <lizonkaa@gmail.com>
Antwort #26 - 23. Februar 2009 um 12:47
 
Hier kommt gerade der Bettelbrief rein:

DER WU kann beginnen: Ausweis, etc.


Re: I be with you‏
Von:      lizonkaa lizonkaa (lizonkaa@gmail.com)
Gesendet:      Montag, 23. Februar 2009 12:38:33
An:      Wolfxxx (xxx@live.de)

Hello my dear Wolfgang,
I tried to learn how we could organize the transference of money. I was
advised to go to the bank. I just have came from the bank. I was
advised to use the services of Western Union or Money Gram. The
manager told me it is the quickest and safest way to transfer the
money. Please let me know if it is ok for you?
Dear Wolfgang I pay per letter 8 US dollars. But we can use the
unlimited correspondence too. It includes: sending and receiving
letters, translation of the letters, scanning and printing of the
photos. We can speak on the phone with the help of the interpreter. We
can pay for the unlimited correspondence for two weeks - 135 US
dollars. We can pay for the unlimited correspondence for the month -
225 US dollars.

I am very upset with this situation, but I believe that together we
can overcome it. Is it right?
Your Liza.
  
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Re: Lizabelta / Liza <lizabelta71@hotmail.com> <lizonkaa@gmail.com>
Antwort #27 - 23. Februar 2009 um 12:50
 
@ Wolf

Ein Ausweis ist zur Abwechselung eine gute Idee,nur einen WU-Marathon ist doch zu trocken  Laut lachend.

P.S.: Schau mal was Du da machen kannst Laut lachend
  
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Antwort #28 - 25. Februar 2009 um 09:58
 
Hier der neueste Schriftverkehr und ein Ausweis.

Obwohl ich kein Experte bin, sieht der schon auf den ersten Blick falsch aus. Bitte doch die Moderatoren, diesen entsprechend zu verschieben, danke



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Von:      lizonkaa lizonkaa (lizonkaa@gmail.com)
Gesendet:      Dienstag, 24. Februar 2009 16:56:14
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Hello my dearest Wolfgang,
thank you for the reply. I have done everything as you asked. Here is
my address:
Full name: Liza Lavrina
Country: Ukraine.
Town:Krasnodon
Street:street Komsomol'skaya,
House:8
Index:94400
I close my letter I am waiting for your information. Your Liza.

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Antwort #29 - 25. Februar 2009 um 12:51
 
Der Pass ist am 18.12.2008 um 18:47 in der Ukraine entstanden. Du bist also nicht der erste, den sie leimen will!
Leider bin ich mit meiner Datenbank für ukrainische Pässe noch nicht in die Pötte gekommen. Daher weiß ich auch nicht, ob wir diese Passnummer schon haben. Auf jeden Fall kommt mir das Stempelfragment auf dem Passbild bekannt vor.
Die Qualität des Passes ist gut. Es erscheint mir, als ob es da ein Blanko gibt oder irgend jemand ein Blanko erstellt hat. Der Pass kommt an meine "Qualitätsarbeit" ran.
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